Where you have truly empowered product teams, and the teams believe they are doing especially meaningful and important work. They sometimes get so wrapped up in that work that, by the time they look up from their computers, it's late into the evening. Or, a year flies by and they have taken literally no vacation (not so much a problem in much of the world, but a real issue in the United States and China especially). A good manager will notice this and discuss at the 1:1. She will explain how easy it is to burn out, how important it is to play the long game, and how the job is essentially
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