Against Me! was our generation’s Fugazi, and I think that’s what hurt the heart of that scene—this underground network of venues that were thriving because Against Me! lifted a whole scene up, because their songs were so fucking good. So when that was happening, I felt bad for them. We were on tour and they were being jerks to us, but I still felt bad. I understood they were lashing out at us because of the growing pains of what was going on.