Like, the way that you do make change is you have some workshops, and you have some conversations, and then we’re not as fucked-up anymore, right? But, in fact change happens really slowly over time, and we have to have compassion for ourselves and each other in the long term, and that there’s painful, painful setbacks. I went into this—I mean, I don’t think we really thought it was “Two-Year Plan, and there won’t be any more sexual assault,” but that was, like—there was an optimism that was maybe, well, you know, it was optimistic.
