The Secret Commonwealth (The Book of Dust #2)
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said to Chen, Do you know of anyone who has gone inside? He said, One man. He did not return. No one returns.
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We were hedged in by imperatives: it’s absolutely necessary to investigate these roses; it’s absolutely impossible to do so without going in and never returning.
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Why is it necessary to investigate the roses? Because of what they show us about the nature of Dust.
Stephanie
I mean we already know its original sin cuz Lyra knows
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Later that night Strauss’s Cariad arrived. She was exhausted, fearful, damaged.
Stephanie
So it is possible for daemons tp enter the desert - although maybe theres a daemon hunting cryptid they have to avoid. Yeesh Strauss might have died with her
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She knew something about that red building in the desert. And she had no idea what it was.
Stephanie
Lol shes Anna from Marnie
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There was no one else alive to whom she could talk about it, except for Serafina Pekkala, the witch queen; but witches were different, and anyway she hadn’t seen Serafina since that journey to the Arctic so many years before.
Stephanie
I mean yeah literally all witches did the same thing and Serafina knows your secret. Why cant ypu admit you know her? Also how do you explain vanishing from your mom's house
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The man this diary’s about, Hassall…He
Stephanie
Hes in the diary. It aint about him
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It told the story of a young man who set out to kill God, and succeeded.
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the world Brande described, human beings had no dæmons. They were totally alone.
Stephanie
Ok he's read The Amber Spyglass
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the protagonist’s denunciation of anything and everything that stood in the way of pure reason.
Stephanie
So.... Feelings?
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it was irrational that such a being should exist, and rational to do away with him.
Stephanie
Lol just cuz?
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Of figurative language, of metaphor or simile, there was not a trace.
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Huh
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The final sentence read, “It was nothing more than what it was.”
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Since they started reading The Hypercolonics or whatever it’s called, they’ve become arrogant and unpleasant in all kinds of ways. Ignoring their dæmons, as if they didn’t exist.
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“You’re still fretting because his story does away with dæmons?”
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Lol girl he is a daemon
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I just can’t stand watching you turn into this rancorous, reductive monster of cold logic.
Stephanie
That uh has that been established? She helped that one girl
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Simon Talbot?
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The one where he pretends that dæmons are merely—what is it?—psychological projections with no independent reality.
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Whereas The Hyperchorasmians was a popular success that was dismissed as tosh by critics and read mainly by the young, The Constant Deceiver was a favorite among literary experts,
Stephanie
Lol is this locke and the other one demosthenes? That kind of situation
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“No,” said Pan. “They’re not different. Two sides of the same coin.”
Stephanie
Pan read enders game too
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“Just because of what they say about dæmons—or don’t say—they don’t pay you enough tribute—”
Stephanie
Lol wut when is recognizing basic sentience "paying tribute" Lyra will be railing against woke daemn mobs next
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Afraid of something because you can’t understand it.”
Stephanie
No afraid because its actively hostile to him you utter dolt. I think pan is right. Evil book magic
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They’re lying, Lyra, both lying. Talbot thinks he can make truth disappear by waving his paradoxes around. Brande thinks he can do it just by bullheaded denial.
Stephanie
Lol she used to be able to recognize lies
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“It’s not just a position you’re taking up. You half believe those people,
Stephanie
So she believes....their position? Thats not a contradiction lil guy
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“You’re forgetting everything important. And you’re trying to believe things that’ll kill us.”
Stephanie
Ok im on your side but can you say the quiet part out loud? What truth are they denying? That emotion is also part of life? that daemons are people? Stop just calling her stupid and name the stupid ideas.
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“If philosophy says I don’t exist, then yes, philosophy is contemptible. I do exist.
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if you call it nonsense, you’re not even beginning to engage with it intellectually.
Stephanie
Lol thats some classic both sides ism right there. Isnt she resisting engaging with Pan's position because she thinks thats nonsense?
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There had been something he’d wanted to tell her about that little notebook from the rucksack, the one with the names and addresses, but now he’d keep that to himself.
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the housekeeper wasn’t that old at all, really. She could easily have children of her own still.
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which suggested to Lyra that he was in the habit of entering this room, that the housekeeper was a close friend, that he expected to find her alone.
Stephanie
Ok so theyre fucking
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“Pan, what is going on?” she said. “What’s the matter with you?” “Tell you later,” he muttered.
Stephanie
Oh mal polstead is assigned to take out alice lonsdale to get to lyra
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Lyra had discovered how to listen, how to respond and encourage these people to say a little more than they meant to,
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he was interested to hear about her private study of the alethiometer with Dame Hannah Relf,
Stephanie
Oh hai other character from book 1
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Lyra was feeling almost stupid, as if this was something she should have known about all her life, and it was negligent of her not to.
Stephanie
Lampshade! this does make her look stoopid. Like she's been in stasis since lyras oxford
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Except—I think she might have had a brother. Someone told me that once. But I don’t know anything about him, and he’s never been in touch with me.”
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He just popped into existence
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You will be living among servants, and living, so to speak, as a servant. It would not be right anymore for you to live on terms of social equality with the academic body.”
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She is a student tho? Lol i guess poor = dumb dumb
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It was her bland voice, her wide-eyed, innocent look, and she was secretly glad to see they still worked, because he had not the faintest idea how to respond.
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But I’m sure the old Master said that Lord Asriel had left plenty. I’m sure of it.”
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“We can’t trust the lock on our door.” “I don’t see why not.”
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I do
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But everyone has to do that. Move away from home, I mean. Go out and make their own life.”
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We’re an ornament to the college. They should be proud to have us.” That made her smile, anyway, for a moment.
Stephanie
Aw
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she was amazed at her own confidence, her own luck. Her stock of those qualities felt low at the moment.
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Lyra couldn’t even guess how many times she’d sat in this room,
Stephanie
Zero on screen
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Your father didn’t leave a penny.”
Stephanie
Lolllllll deadbeat asriel
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The story that unfolded was stranger than Lyra could have guessed, and listening to it felt like standing on a mountaintop as a wind blew away clouds of fog and mist and disclosed a panorama completely unsuspected only a few minutes before.
Stephanie
Lolllll talkin up ur own book in your other book u silly
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but in Dr. Polstead’s account there was no horse…. “I thought there was a horse,” Lyra said. “No horse,” said Alice.
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When Malcolm pushed it in among your blankets, it was the first time it had changed hands honestly for hundreds of years. And I think that broke the pattern.”
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that fairy: Did you really mean a fairy? Or was it that you imagined…It can’t have been true?”
Stephanie
Girrrrrrrrl you have seen much weirder shit
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“But why didn’t you tell me before?” He looked a little abashed.
Stephanie
Ok the author had to do sum retconn
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“But why would they want to hurt me?” “We don’t know.”
Stephanie
Lol i guess she never did figure out she was eve