Baker then approached Daniel Levin, who, at the time, was serving as both counsel to Attorney General John Ashcroft and chief of staff to FBI Director Robert Mueller. When Baker asked Levin about the eavesdropping, Levin said he could not discuss it with him without White House approval. The conversations were unlike any Baker had experienced in a decade at the Justice Department. The Bush administration appeared to be conducting mass surveillance of Americans in flagrant violation of American law.