They talked a surprising amount. Assistant Cook John Maynard told how Captain Smith swam alongside the boat just before the Titanic took her last plunge. They pulled him on, but he slipped off again. Later Fireman Harry Senior claimed the Captain let go on purpose, saying, “I will follow the ship!” It may have been true, but Hurst is sure the Captain never reached the boat. Besides, Senior was one of the last to arrive—probably too late to have seen the Captain himself.