OPRAH: It’s like what you say about human evolution: It’s not linear. Rather, it’s take two steps forward in your life and one step back. And the farther back you go, the more of a bounce you have to move forward. Right? ECKHART: Yes. We definitely have evolved in consciousness. But it does not go in a straight line upward. You regress, and then you go forward. You regress, and then you go forward a bit more. It goes in cycles. We need the crisis. There are two levels of truth. One is to see the craziness of what’s happening now. And another is to see, from a higher perspective, that what’s
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