“On the one hand, I understand that, yes, they’re taking bribes, that it’s awful. How can you take a bribe from a child with this diagnosis? But on the other hand, I think: ‘OK, they’re taking €100, but they need to live, too. They also have to go places and get things.’ I think you understand what I’m talking about, it’s the system. Everything is connected. I am more than convinced that every hospital in Ukraine works in the same way,” she said. Later, after we left the kitchen, she was a little harsher in her assessment: “I try not to criticize the doctors in front of the parents, because
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