“I am not a very effective activist,” Kassoy said, “and I know a lot of people who are, of whom I’m very supportive, but I’ve never been very good at it. I can’t tell you if that’s lack of courage, lack of an understanding of how to—like, I think being a really good activist requires some amount of manipulation, and I’m not that good at that.” It was peculiar, this idea of activism as manipulation; it sounded more like an excuse for not working on systems than a reason.