In a television interview ten years later, Marchal spoke about the meeting: ‘Jean-Pierre gave me a very good and clear description about the Interahamwe organisation. He described the cells, the armaments, the training, and he told me that everybody was suspected … and then the reaction will follow immediately, and the reaction was to kill a maximum of Tutsis. And each family, each house, was located in Kigali, so everything was being prepared … And [based] on what Jean-Pierre told me of the Interahamwe organisation, I felt it was a real killing machine because the objective was very clear for
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