questions. ‘When I did the first few stories, as I listened back to the recordings to transcribe them, I heard them talk and then I heard myself butt in with a question,’ she recalls. ‘I realised that the person I was talking to never came back to that point. They could never find that original thread that they were on. I missed all the rest of the story or I missed a substantial chunk of what was going on for them. I kicked myself. “You fool. Shut up. Just shut up and listen.”’ Clearly, that is the type of interview James Scott wishes he’d had with 60 Minutes.

