He and I had a long discussion about it, and he had this idea that underlying the world we live in—the phenomenal world—is what he called the implicate order. The implicate order unfolds into the explicate order, or the phenomenal world. But the implicate order is not itself in space and time, or at least it’s in other dimensions of space and time. It’s not in three- or four-dimensional space and time. So as I said to Bohm, if you just have the implicate order giving the explicate order, then you’ve just reinvented Neoplatonism—you’ve got a kind of platonic realm that folds out to the
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