The same basic conversational pattern could be repeated just as easily for the other two trainings. For instance, you could ask a meditation teacher, “I wish to learn how to get into the early concentration states. Do you know how to do this?” You could also ask, “I wish to attain to the first stage of enlightenment. Do you know how to do this?” If they say, “Yes,” the next question would be, “Would you be willing to guide me in those steps, please?”

