He would leave home at seven in the morning, work all through the day, and get home at seven at night. He began to wonder—you “go through this forty- to fifty-hour workweek, and if you don’t really like it, you’re just setting yourself up for depression, and anxiety. And questioning—why am I doing this? There’s got to be something better than this.” He started to feel, he said, that there was “no hope. What’s the point?”