The Listening Society: A Metamodern Guide to Politics, Book One
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The second characteristic is that they value inner dimensions much more.
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They will tend to be very process-oriented, trying to involve people in interactive processes a lot more.
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manner. You strive for solidarity with all beings and their perspectives. This means that you don’t judge people because of their opinions. The metamodern mind is trying to stimulate development into higher stages and manage the ongoing relations between existing stages. All creatures have the right to be who they are. But for the sake of all sentient beings, long-term transformation towards higher stages should be supported in nicest and least painful manner possible. Avoid both “game denial” and “game acceptance”, work for “game change” (this is discussed in Book Two). Create a ...more
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Potentials and potentiality, rather than facts and actualities, constitute the most fundamental or “more real” reality. What we usually call reality is only “actuality”, one slice of an infinitely larger, hypercomplex pie. Actuality is only a “case of” a deeper reality, called “absolute totality”. Realdialektik: History develops in certain directions for logical reasons. Perspective, physics and consciousness are inextricably intertwined, neither one of them constitutes the ground of reality.
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And, most of all, metamodernists don’t judge the perspectives of others. The postmodern mind seeks to include all voices, but only insofar as those voices say things that are acceptable to the postmodernists themselves. The clarion call heard by all metamodernists is: solidarity with all sentient beings also requires solidarity with their perspectives.
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My answer is no. At this point in history, there are no higher effective value memes, for all practical purposes, than the Metamodern (and even that one almost doesn’t exist, as we shall see).
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But if there would truly be a value meme beyond the metamodern, there would be a murderous critique of the metamodern code—which is nowhere to be found.
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ludicrous it is to believe in an even higher value meme?
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Could it be that we reach the second tier and culturally we will be at this stage for quite some time, for it is a level that is aware of all other forms of human development? We cannot go higher necessarily for we have reached the end of the line. The squirrel will forever bury nuts and not build silos for it cannot. The human cannot go beyond yellow for it is not humanly possible, it is only imagined.
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The increases in effective value meme can be understood as a kind of increase in the degree of secularism.
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Without the Metamodern value meme it’s difficult to see how we could make it, because only metamodernists can handle the relationships between all the other value memes productively.
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So isn't the meta-modern meme, this second tier thinking as far as we can go? At least at this point in time? We may be able to be like a Zen master or a Ken Wilber and meditate for 30 years on the Various dynamics of each higher State, I suppose I need to reread that second and third tier to grasp what this guys thinking about. But as humans we will not stay in that state if we are to interact with others. We can see those those higher second and third tier states, but in order for it to be a stage it will probably take something beyond our human capabilities as a worldwide global system. So I agree with this Hanzi guy, for, although he's not necessarily articulating it as I would like, he realizes that the Metamodern Society is as far as we can possibly go given our advances at this point, and to even imagine something beyond it is maybe missing the point. Please see my Moore's law on human development talk to understand this aspect of it
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What you do need is a large quantity of people who contribute to the overall shift of pattern in society, each with their own piece of the puzzle.
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But there is a group that is consciously aware of the Metamodern value meme and is actively pursuing its emergence. We know them from chapter 5: the metamodern aristocracy.
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The aristocracy has a systemic and clear picture of what is going on—and they have the resources to act upon their understanding.
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Unfortunately, a large majority of all adherents to Spiral Dynamics and similar theories only ever reach this stage of understanding—usually
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Most people only grasped the developmental stages as a kind of stereotypes.[162]
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they are both of the same value meme. They have just reached it by virtue of different characteristics.
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dark metamodernists—more like myself and other scholars—and light metamodernists, who are more like spiritually inclined Spiral Dynamics people.
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This explains why intelligent folks like Ken Wilber will believe the most stupefyingly preposterous things (Wilber believes in miracles, in a love-force called Eros that propels evolution and in Lamarckist evolutionary theory). They out-depth and out-state their own cognitive and symbolic stage.
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skill theory,
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aspects of psychology,
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life-phases:
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The value memes are good at explaining the world, and for understanding society, politics and people around us. But they obviously don’t answer all of your questions.
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there is much more to psychology, sociology and politics.
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So it is with psychological and sociological development. The reason that the world seems so fussy is simply that you haven’t yet discovered and understood the patterns through which it is ordered. This
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Our ability as a society to support the growth into higher stages is not only an ethical imperative—as our current societies are full of inexcusable suffering—but a requirement for our emerging global society to thrive and survive.
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Is it really beyond our ability to create institutions that support our happiness and development?
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Maybe it will be in-depth thought reserved for his other books, but to limit the discussion, all but omitting this side of the listening society, the meditation in schools, the .... well now that I think about it, I donno where to start
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Never before has there been such intense and close contact between so many different value memes. Not only that: The interactions work across all stages of complexity, symbolic codes, inner states and levels of depth.
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Portuguese psychologist: Lourenço, O. M., 2016. Developmental stages, Piagetian stages in particular: a critical review. New Ideas in Psychology, Volume 40, pp. 123-37.
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Rowson, J., 2014. Spiritualise: Revitalising Spirituality to Address 21st Century Challenges.
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British neuroscientist Robin Carhart-Harris.
The Sociology of Philosophies: A Global Theory of Intellectual Change.
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