We were like, “Okay, we’re all about redemption.” And he terrified the Wardrobe. I mean he terrified the Hair and Makeup. He was unrelentingly discomforting to the people on the show. Jay’s right about the real Barksdale, but Avon Barksdale was a character that had that surname but had nothing to do with Nathan. The only way that Melvin got on the show—I mean there was no Melvin Williams on the show. Melvin, he actually played the role of the deacon, because I wouldn’t let him play a gangster. In our heads, that’s what I’m saying, it’s all mangled up. We were taking surnames because they
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