Dese’Rae: Right. It’s an abusive relationship; it’s trauma; it’s years of depression. It’s a breakup with someone who is manipulative, someone who I could not get away from and didn’t really want to. So that’s the interesting part to me, because I want to dig into why people make decisions. That’s the interesting part—it’s about reframing the suicide story to be about the person’s life, not just about their death.