McDonough is just getting wound up. “I have a rule. Every day, I have to touch ten members of Congress. Phone call. Letter. E-mail. Text. And if people can’t at the end of the day get to yes on something, and they need to blame it on us, so be it. That’s what happens with presidents. John [Podesta] used to laugh in here all the time about this nostalgia for congressional relations under the Clinton administration. He said, ‘These guys—they hated us!’ Right? But this is just the way it works. And that’s okay. Leon…I’ve got my views on Leon. So be it. I wish him well.”

