“If you have people like Kelly and others around the president,” Panetta observed, “chances are they can keep a handle on it. But if this president suddenly kicks Kelly out of the room, kicks McMaster out of the room, and says, ‘I don’t give a damn. This is what I’m going to do!’”—Panetta paused—“that could be a very dangerous moment for the future of this country. I would not be surprised if Kelly and Mattis and McMaster have talked about: ‘What do we do if…’” “Would you be talking about it if you were in Kelly’s shoes?” I asked Panetta. “Absolutely,” he said. “Absolutely. It’s only the fate
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