“I can’t tell you how many guys tell me, ‘Look, it’s great that we’re talking. Let’s just not let anybody know,’ ” he says. “It’s different than when Leon was here, and it’s different than even when Podesta was here.” Part of it, he says, is that Congress is never around. “These guys get here on Monday night or Tuesday night and they leave on Thursday night. Right? So that leaves you Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights for when the president presumably can schmooze with these guys. Why doesn’t the president go golfing with these guys on the weekend? Well, because they’re not here.”
