After dinner, he asked Kudda and his family, “Have any of you ever visited Babylon?” Kudda’s wife, Alitum, answered, “No, why would we? It’s a long climb, and we have all we need here.” “You have no desire to actually walk on the earth?” Kudda shrugged. “We live on the road to heaven; all the work that we do is to extend it further. When we leave the tower, we will take the upward ramp, not the downward.”