Your CM Narendra Modi is very popular here, in Gujarat? A) Yes, he fools everybody and people get fooled. Q) In that case, as additional DG, you would have had a tough time working under them? A) They never had the guts to force me to do anything illegal. Q) Lawlessness is rampant here no? Hardly any officers who are upright? A) There are very few of them. This man Narendra Modi has been responsible for the killing of Muslims across [the state]. Q) Achcha, I hear that the cops also toed the line of the government? A) All of them, like this P.C.Pande, it all happened in their presence.