Then they do not dispute that the wrongdoer must be punished, but they may disagree as to who the wrongdoer is, what he did, and when. EUTHYPHRO: You are right. SOCRATES: Do not the gods have the same experience, if indeed they are at odds with each other about the just and the unjust, as your argument maintains? Some assert that they wrong one another, while [e] others deny it, but no one among gods or men ventures to say that the wrongdoer must not be punished.

