that a scientist brings in terms of quantification and objectivity. That has changed somewhat,” he says. “Today, when I teach a course on the killer whale, back in Wisconsin, I bring the students here,” he says. “I want them to be able and willing to look at the killer whale through the eyes of a poet, a musician, an artist, as well as a scientist. I encourage my students to dabble in the arts, because it makes them much better scientists.