NED: You’re missing something. Biological is what we are. I think most people would agree that being biological is the quintessential attribute of being human. RAY: That’s certainly true today. NED: And I plan to keep it that way. RAY: Well, if you’re speaking for yourself, that’s fine with me. But if you stay biological and don’t reprogram your genes, you won’t be around for very long to influence the debate.