How (Not) to Be Secular: Reading Charles Taylor
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“Humans are no longer charter members of the cosmos, but occupy merely a narrow band of recent time,”
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even believers end up defending a theistic universe rather than the biblical cosmos.
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But this supposed “pure face-off between ‘religion’ and ‘science’ is a chimaera, or rather, an ideological construct. In reality, there is a struggle between thinkers with complex, many-levelled agendas”
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the poet has to create a/the world.
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art is decontextualized from its religious origins and then recontextualized as “art.”
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And conveniently, art is never going to ask of you anything you wouldn’t want to do. So we get significance without any ascetic moral burden.
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just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not after you.)
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The upshot is a hermeneutics of suspicion; if someone tells you that he or she has converted to unbelief because of science, don’t believe them.
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Converts to unbelief always tell subtraction stories.
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And the belief such persons have converted from has usually been an immature, Sunday-schoolish faith that could be easily toppled.
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a conversion to a new faith: “faith in science’s ability”
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rather to offer an alternative story that offers a more robust, complex understanding of the Christian faith.
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While such a universe might have nothing to offer us by way of comfort, it’s also true that “in such a universe, nothing is demanded of us”
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“Each is comforted in their position by the thought that the only alternative is so utterly repulsive.”
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we shouldn’t forget the spiritual costs of various kinds of forced conformity:
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“committed secularism remains the creed of a relatively small minority”
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why do secularists so confidently assume that this is just “the way things are”
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Do you see the transcendent as “a threat, a dangerous temptation, a distraction, or an obstacle to our greatest good”?
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an unchallenged framework, something we have trouble often thinking ourselves outside
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way of convincing oneself that one’s reading is obvious, compelling, allowing of no cavil or demurral”
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The death of God is seen as an effect of the deliverances of science and the shape of contemporary moral experience.
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Taylor, the “arguments” don’t really hold up. So why are people captivated by this story? What makes them convert? How do we account for the power of bad arguments
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exclusive humanism sets up a dichotomy between religion (Christianity) and humanism.
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it’s not Christianity versus exclusive humanism, but rather Christian humanism versus exclusive humanism.
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we can find here an exhilarating challenge, which inspires us, which can even awaken a sense of the strange beauty
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But it can also be terrifying,
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1. Agency: “the sense that we aren’t just determined, that we are active, building, creating, shaping agents”; 2. Ethics: “we have higher spiritual/ethical motives” that don’t reduce to biological instinct or “base” drives; and 3. Aesthetics: “Art, Nature moves us” because of a sense of meaning; these are not just differential responses to pleasure.
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The moral is transferred to a therapeutic register; in doing so we move from responsibility to victimhood.
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In the name of securing our freedom, we swap submission to the priest for submission to the therapist.
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If one takes this route, then irruptions of violence are evolutionary throwbacks: “culture evolves, and brings higher and higher standards of moral behaviour.
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Yet another problem of the evolutionary take on life. Taking the biblical view of human history leads to very different conclusions.
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What makes me impatient are the positions that are put forward as conversation-stoppers: I have a three-line argument which shows that your position is absurd or impossible or totally immoral.
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“Some people hold that one shouldn’t ask this meta-question, that one should train oneself not to feel the need.” However, it’s also not easily suppressed,
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One might die for God, or the Revolution, or the classless society, but not for meaning”
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we don’t know how to make people moral, but we do know how to specify rules,
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no code can anticipate every vagary of circumstance;
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These are all epistemological concerns that see the problem as one of knowledge
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codes don’t make people care for their neighbor.
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