Bill recounted how his audience would raucously applaud for principles like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and equality for women, minorities, and LGBT, but the applause would abruptly halt if anyone mentioned that these principles were not being upheld in the Muslim world. Sam added that liberals are happy to criticize white theocracies, Christian theocracies, but they fail to criticize the same evils in the Muslim world. He clarified that Islam, the religion (a set of ideas) was very different from Muslims, the people.
