Nobody wants to die young, but if you want a long life, then you have to accept that ageing, changing is going to be involved. And it’s liberating in a way. All the sagging and wrinkling and becoming invisible.’ ‘How so?’ ‘You get seen as a person. Not just as an attractive woman, but a person first and foremost. It’s strange at first, but then it’s kind of amazing. Because you realise people are finally seeing you,’ she said. ‘Seeing who you are, not what you are.’