It took me a while to work that out, because now it’s commonplace that people use symbols ironically. But in the hippie days, styles of dress or symbols were used unironically. It was, This is what you are—you have long hair; you wear this; you are a peace person. So if you wear swastikas you are a Nazi. And suddenly a movement comes along with no transition, nobody saying anything, and they’re using swastikas and it’s not about that; it’s a costume and an assault. It’s about something completely different—it’s about gesture, and shock tactic. I kind of knew that instinctively, but I didn’t
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