Now, of course, I can see the error of my ways. Now I can see that what Martin gave us, which was the greatest gift any producer can give any band. He gave us timelessness. Because Unknown Pleasures is just one of those things: it’s a truly ageless album. Think of the millions of albums influenced by Unknown Pleasures that have aged, while Unknown Pleasures hasn’t. That was his gift to us. We gave him the brilliant songs and he put them in little capsules so they’d stay brilliant forever.