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after almost a minute of expectant waiting, an expression of stark terror suddenly showed on the poor woman’s face. It was contorted by spasms; she raised her trembling hands and suddenly burst into tears, exactly like a frightened child; another moment and she would have started screaming.
‘Hello, Prince,’ she whispered,
I just picked up on Nikolay being called Prince (which I rightly connectd to the Devil somewhere in my notes for Part 1 Ch 2) and Pyotr wanting to make him Ivan Tsarevich, which essentially means Prince. So wanting to replace the 'Russian God' with Nikolay, Ivan Tsarevich, is not only the deification of man but also the usurpation of the Devil to ascend to the throne of God.
this would've been more seemly if I had come to this thought during the actual Ivan Tsarevich chapter…
‘Grish-ka Ot-re-pyev — anathema!’
I seriously interpret that whole interaction to be her madness. It's clear to me why she characterised the old Stavrogin as a Prince but not this one. It lines up with what Pyotr later says: 'I made you up myself abroad,' after his disappointment at Nikolay refusing him. Makes sense too becase Nikolay got married to Marya at around the same time Pyotr 'made [him] up'. And remember his conversation with Shatov: Nikolay had such revolutionist ideas two years ago abroad but now he does not, coming to nihilism - so Marya calling this Nikolay an owl is befitting.
Finally Nikolay Vsevolodovich threw the entire wad at him, and continuing to guffaw, set out down the lane, but this time alone. The tramp remained, groping on his knees in the mud, looking for notes that had been scattered by the wind and had sunk in puddles, and for a whole hour after that his sharp little cries could be heard in the darkness: ‘Ooh, oh!’
Nikolay throwing the money out in his anger, to a tramp that he despises, shows that he is really beyond the materialism we see in the novel The Idiot. In The Idiot, materialism brings about a destructive society which brings our good and Christ-like Myshkin to ruin. But in Demons, are main characters, namely Stavrogin, are beyond tthat point. Stavrogin throws away what the materialist worships as his god, into the mud for a convict and beggar to pick up after.
‘Why does everyone expect something from me that they don’t expect from other people?
Lmao Stavrogin you have no idea whats coming
People make him a headman and expect extraordinary things from Stavrogin precisely because of his nihilism and how much power he holds through his charm and allure. Shatov let us know how both the underground and high society see him: ‘Is it true that you stated you didn’t make a distinction between the beauty of any instance of bestial carnality and a heroic deed of any kind, even the sacrifice of one’s life for humanity?’
‘Not at all!’ Kirillov turned around to shake his hand. ‘If my burden is light, because such is my nature, then perhaps your burden is heavier because such is your nature.’
Stavrogin has a grave sense of nihilism. His burden is heavier than Kirillov’s possibly because he still believes in the Devil without believing in God (Stavrogin says this at Tikhon’s.) But Kirillov is a universalist (‘everything is good’) who believes in the deification of man.
‘You won’t ruin the other woman… the mad one?’ ‘I won’t ruin any mad women, either of them, but it seems I’m going to ruin the sane one: I’m so vile and disgusting, Dasha, that it seems I really will call for you “at the final end”, as you put it, and you, despite all your sanity, you’ll come.
‘The mad one’ is obviously Marya Timofeyevna, whom he’s ruined, and the ‘sane one’ is Liza, who is sick right now probably because of him and whom he will ruin later. We already know why Stavrogin married Marya - ‘moral carnality’ - and he’s done the same to Dasha and he knows he’ll do the same to Liza.
The thing is Dasha is kind of a willing victim in this case, because as Stavrogin tells her, despite her sanity, she’ll still run to him if he calls her. Indirectly, Stavrogin also refers to Dasha when he says ‘the sane one.’
You seem to be interested in me, just as some superannuated sick-nurses for some reason take an interest in one particular patient in preference to others, or, even better, just as some pious little old ladies who totter around from funeral to funeral prefer certain corpses as being easier on the eyes than others.
Lmao that’s one hell of a comparison. She’s attracted to him out of morbid allure? she’s self-destructive?
(ahem, same lol)
They trotted out Nikolay Vsevolodovich’s respectful attitude towards his mother, looked for various virtues in him and spoke approvingly of the learning he had acquired in four years of study at German universities.
It’s like that quote from The Idiot, ‘The terrible thing about money is that it gives you talents.’ But here, Nikolay Vsyevolodovich is being favoured by all the town for his alluring nihilism and dignity in the duel; he’s being made an idol even in high society now too. I’m sure he hates it lmao.
‘And please permit me to put my name on your list too. I will tell Stepan Trofimovich and ask him myself.’
Okay so this is how Stepan Trofimovich got to read on that fucking téte-a-téte in the first place (Varvara gave Yuliya permission for him to and sent Pyotr to tell Stepan that he was going to read).
Nikolay Vsevolodovich shook his hand off suddenly and turned quickly to him with a menacing scowl. Pyotr Stepanovich glanced at him with a strange and prolonged smile. All this took but a moment. Nikolay Vsevolodovich moved on.
‘he never spent a single rouble on me his whole life, until I was sixteen he didn’t know anything about me; then he robbed me here, and now he’s shouting that his heart has been aching for me his whole life long; and he’s carrying on in front of me like an actor. Why, after all, I’m not Varvara Petrovna, for pity’s sake!’
Pyotr seems the most human to the reader in this one moment. It makes sense how he hates his father so much, bro I know what it’s like to have an absentee dad, but the insolence he showed throughout that whole interaction was so staggering. Pyotr even makes a point to make Stepan feel insecure about his relationship with Varvara Petrovna
‘Well, that’s as you wish,’ Pyotr Stepanovich grumbled, ‘but still and all, you are paving the way for us, and preparing our success.’
It’s a pretty important acknoledgement that the governing body and society at the time were themselves so tangled up with poor ideas, and that either fuelled or allowed the revolutionists to have the power that they did.
Pyotr Stepanovich constantly and tirelessly tried, in whispers, to implant in the governor’s house a certain idea that he had put into circulation earlier, that Nikolay Vsevolodovich was a man who had the most mysterious connections in a most mysterious world and was probably here on some mission.
But some pranks were intolerable, somewhat off-colour.
These pranks probably shouldn’t be dismissed as the society just fooling around, but remembered later in light of their serious filibustering. Because this was kind of their starting-off, when they first had enough power to wreak havoc on the town even if it’s now still just in the form of some little pranks.
But at this point Augustin turned savage as well:
Lyamshin’s one of the inner members of the society. I can see his musical composition to be a sort of metaphor for their planned revolution and rise to domination: the Marsellaise is the current government that they plan to overthrow, and of course the Marsellaise is going to disregard Augustin, who is symbolic of revolution, as just some annoying bug. Until Augustin gets bigger and stronger and eventually the Marsellaise itself becomes confused with how Augustin is taking over the score, until is surrenders and Augustin is now the primary theme. Now it makes sense that after gaining power, Augustin turns savage as well, because these revolutionists won’t have order in their rule, but radical liberalism, socialism, nihilism, brutalism, and chaos.
one night the icon was stolen, the glass of the icon-case broken, the grating smashed, and from the crown and the setting several stones and pearls removed,
This is the first ‘job’ that really showed the colours of their revolution. No doubt this was desecration of a sacred image, and of course Fedka was only the pawn that Pyotr (he was probably the one who orchestrated it) used. It’s befitting they stole the Mother of God’s crown - they want to dethrone God, so that includes insulting the crown He gave to His mother.