On the Nature of the Universe
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Therefore all things we see do not utterly perish   Since nature makes good one thing from another,   And does not suffer anything to be born   Unless it is aided by another’s death.
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Therefore nature works by means of hidden bodies.   Yet all things everywhere are not held in packed tight   In a mass of body. There is void in things
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Time likewise does not exist by itself*,   But a sense follows from things themselves   Of what has been done in the past, what now is present, 460 And what in addition is to follow after.   And no one has a sense of time distinct   From the movement of things or from their quiet rest.
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events never at all   Exist by themselves as matter does, nor can   Be said to exist in the same way as void. 480 But rightly you may call them accidents   Of matter and of place in which things happen.
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Now do you see the point I made before,   That often it is a matter of great importance   How these same atoms combine, in what positions   They are held, what motions they give and take, 910 And that these same by quite small mutual changes   Can make both fires and firs? As the words themselves   Consist of elements a little changed   When we say fires or firs with different sounds?
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We find then that the universe is not bounded   In any direction. If it were, it would need to have   An extremity. But nothing can have an extremity   Unless there is something outside to limit it, 960 Something beyond to bound it, some clear point   Further than which our senses cannot reach.   Now since we must admit that there is nothing   Beyond the sum of things, it has no extremity.   Therefore it has no end, nor any limit.   Nor does it matter in what part of it 965 You stand: wherever a man takes his place   It stretches always boundless, infinite.
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Therefore there is a vast abyss of space   So wide and deep that flashing thunderbolts   Can neither in their courses traverse it   Though they may fall through endless tracts of time,   Nor by their travel make one whit the less   The distance still to go. So huge extends 1005 Capacity of space on either side,   No bounds at all, no limit anywhere.
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the ether twinkles with the stars   And the sun’s flame feeds on the sky’s blue pastures
Eric Norris
That is just stunningly beautiful.
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A joy it is*, when the strong winds of storm   Stir up the waters of a mighty sea,   To watch from shore the troubles of another.   No pleasure this in any man’s distress,   But joy to see the ills from which you are spared,   And joy to see great armies locked in conflict 5 Across the plains, yourself free from the danger.
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Our lives in very truth   Are but an endless labour in the dark.   For we, like children frightened of the dark*, 55 Are sometimes frightened in the light—of things
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We see that everything   Diminishes, and through the long lapse of time   We note that all things seem to melt away   As years and age withdraw them from our sight. 70 And yet the sum of things stays unimpaired.
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But atoms, which are completely solid and single,   When they pass through the empty void, and nothing   Outside of them delays them, then they move   As single units on the course on which they started. 160 Therefore they must be of surpassing speed   And move much faster than the light of the sun,   And cover a distance many times as great   In the time the sun’s flash takes to cross the sky.
Eric Norris
This is astonishing: two thousand years ago conceiving that light had a speed and that it was limited.
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If atoms never swerve and make beginning   Of motions that can break the bonds of fate*,   And foil the infinite chain of cause and effect, 255 What is the origin of this free will   Possessed by living creatures throughout the earth?
Eric Norris
Good question.
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if the same great force of nature stands   Ready to throw the seeds of things together   In the same way as they have here combined,   Then of necessity you must accept   That other earths exist, in other places, 1075 With varied tribes of men and breeds of beasts.
Eric Norris
Life on other planets. Good job, Lucretius.
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For we, like children frightened of the dark*, 87 Are sometimes frightened in the light—of things
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And really it is ridiculous to imagine   That spirits at the coupling and birth of animals   Stand waiting to get in, immortal spirits   Awaiting mortal bodies, numberless,   Jostling and fighting to get in. Unless, that is, 780 They’ve made some sort of contract among themselves,   First come first served, that puts an end to squabbling.
Eric Norris
That's funny.
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When you review the whole past length of time 855 Existing measureless, and think how mixed   And various the motions of matter are,   You will easily believe that the same seeds   Of which we now are made, have often before   Been placed in the positions they are now in.
Eric Norris
I think he might be onto something.