MOYERS: Is the story trying to tell us that, prior to what happened in this Garden to destroy us, there was a unity of life? CAMPBELL: It’s a matter of planes of consciousness. It doesn’t have to do with anything that happened. There is the plane of consciousness where you can identify yourself with that which transcends pairs of opposites. MOYERS: Which is? CAMPBELL: Unnameable. Unnameable. It is transcendent of all names.