David Ellis

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Once all emotionally empowered wrong-knowing is removed, nothing forever is what remains. Nothing forever is real reality and this, where you are right now, is virtual reality. Transitioning from that second part and settling into the third takes, in my experience, around ten years. Then what? Is the mountain a mountain? Yes, of course it’s a mountain, same as it ever was, but no, not really, because no one really returns from nothing forever.
Jed McKenna's Theory of Everything: The Enlightened Perspective
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