Michelle van Schouwen

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“Look, this place is intense,” JFW says toward the end. “It’s important to find a sustainable balance. Maybe that means a few times a year you leave at five thirty on a Friday to hang out with your family. That’s great! You absolutely should take those opportunities.” We all smile and nod, but the energy in the room collapses, and from Chuck’s face I can tell that “leave at five thirty on a Friday a few times a year” isn’t quite the pep talk he wanted for us (or needed to hear himself, maybe).
Exit Interview: The Life and Death of My Ambitious Career
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