I would probably never again have a chance of seeing a dukun close to death, so I ventured to ask the question that had been on my mind since I stepped inside the house: “Are you afraid of death?” “I don’t know … I know only that in the course of my life I’ve seen spirits of all types. I’ve seen spirits of old women with long white hair, I’ve seen the ghosts of animals, I’ve seen the ghosts of the sea that sometimes invade the bodies of fishermen when they are out on their boats. I’ve seen many strange things, and I expect to see more … even after,” he replied.