“When I was younger,” she said, “I went through a phase where I wanted to be a machine. I think this is one of the normal phases that young people go through now—like The Lord of the Rings phase, the Ayn Rand phase—I honestly didn’t want to be flesh; I wanted to be ‘precision technology’—like a Los Angeles person; I listened to Kraftwerk and ‘Cars’ by Gary Numan.”

