MAN: How about Suharto [Indonesian dictator]—he’s called a “moderate” too. Suharto, yeah—that’s the most extreme case I’ve ever seen, in fact, I’m glad you mention it. This is a really astonishing one, actually. For example, there was an article in the Christian Science Monitor a couple years ago about the great business opportunities in Indonesia, and it said: after the Indonesian government stopped a Communist revolt in 1965, the West was very eager to do business with Indonesia’s “new moderate leader, Suharto.”22 Well, who’s Indonesia’s “new moderate leader, Suharto”? Suharto is the guy
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