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Published in 1974, this is – astonishingly – the 28th mystery in the Roderick Alleyn series. Many of the views in this novel, particularly in terms of race, seem very outdated now and make uncomfortable reading.
The mystery is centred around the visit of the President of Ng’ombwana, an emerging, African nation. The President is being difficult about security and so Alleyn, who went to school with him and knows him by his nickname, ‘The Boomer,’ due to his loud voice, is sent to make him see reas ...more
The mystery is centred around the visit of the President of Ng’ombwana, an emerging, African nation. The President is being difficult about security and so Alleyn, who went to school with him and knows him by his nickname, ‘The Boomer,’ due to his loud voice, is sent to make him see reas ...more

Review of the audiobook narrated by Nadia May
Continuing with my Ngaio Marsh audiobook glom -- largely courtesy of Audible Plus having so many titles in their catalog -- I reached this book, which is rather controversial for its antiquated racial and class biases. The author's attitudes, which are those to be expected from a seventy-nine-year-old lady writing in 1974, did not bother me all that much, although I would not accept them from a contemporary author.
I also cut Dame Marsh some slack for ...more
Continuing with my Ngaio Marsh audiobook glom -- largely courtesy of Audible Plus having so many titles in their catalog -- I reached this book, which is rather controversial for its antiquated racial and class biases. The author's attitudes, which are those to be expected from a seventy-nine-year-old lady writing in 1974, did not bother me all that much, although I would not accept them from a contemporary author.
I also cut Dame Marsh some slack for ...more

Jan 11, 2016
Teri-K
rated it
really liked it
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review of another edition
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This is a very good entry in the series. We get to see Alleyn and Troy together in "normal" circumstances, and Mr Whipplestone and Lucy are delightful. I also think the mystery is well-done, with several possibilities being uncovered and some suspects I wanted to be innocent.
Unlike a few reviewers, I didn't think this showed the author as particularly bigoted, though there are some elements that don't work today. It's true that the secondary characters are stereotypes. But they almost always are ...more
Unlike a few reviewers, I didn't think this showed the author as particularly bigoted, though there are some elements that don't work today. It's true that the secondary characters are stereotypes. But they almost always are ...more

The story opens with Mr. Samuel Whipplestone, recently retired from the Foreign Office. He had told himself that "he was tuned in to retirement and now realized he was in no such condition." He was dissatisfied. He was at loose ends. He felt like he had nothing to look forward to. So he takes a walk in the Capricorn area of London and before he knows it he has acquired a new living space at No. 1, Capricorn Walk as well as new cat. The little cat adopts him and though he tells himself he doesn't
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The plot is well-done, with the over-arching mystery appropriately tangled and clues doled out that I mostly missed. There's also a quick mystery, too, that helps wrap the whole thing up. As always, it's interesting to see the different viewpoints and cultural norms of the time.
For me though, Marsh 's strength here is the characters. Inspector Alleyn is as intelligent and polite as always. He is a gentleman, a member of the upper class, as this episode reminds us. I like that his wife, Troy, who ...more
For me though, Marsh 's strength here is the characters. Inspector Alleyn is as intelligent and polite as always. He is a gentleman, a member of the upper class, as this episode reminds us. I like that his wife, Troy, who ...more

"Among whom might be found the old cloak and dagger merchant. And apart from all these more or less motivated persons," Alleyn said, " there are the ones policemen like least - the fanatics. The haters of black pigmentation, the lonely woman who dreams about a black rapist, the man who builds Antichrist in a black image, or who reads a threat to his livelihood in every black neighbor, or for whom the commonplace phrases - black outlook., black record, as black as it's painted, black villainy, an
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I’m usually very fast reader, but this one took me a little while. I love Ngaio Marsh, and I love classic mysteries in general, but there was just something about this one that put me off a bit. It wasn’t just the outdated notions about race; there’s a little off, putting about the plot structure too.
But the character of Mr. Whipplestone was fantastic, and the mystery was ultimately enjoyable. I also love the relationship between Alleyn and his wife, and the character of Boomer was very moving a ...more
But the character of Mr. Whipplestone was fantastic, and the mystery was ultimately enjoyable. I also love the relationship between Alleyn and his wife, and the character of Boomer was very moving a ...more

May 19, 2011
Abbey
rated it
it was amazing
Shelves:
own,
favorites,
myst-fems-project,
myst-cosies,
myst-set-andor-auth-uk,
vintage,
myst-police,
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Carol Evans
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