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sounds good!

I think you may be on to something there. Although Stephen King hated Kubrick's version of the shining, I am sure he didn't object when he cashed the checks both for the film, and for the increased sales of the book after the film's release. Honestly, I kind of softened my stance on Clockwork orange as I finished it, as it seemed to me the theme was less about "look at this crazy violent society that we are headed toward if we don't shape up," and more toward "Look what becomes of a man if his ability to choose is taken away."
As far as what to read next, I have no opinion. I am open minded, although we seem to have read several dystopian novels in the group, and perhaps it is time to branch out.

I do appreciate the irony of the fact that Alex, the ultra violent sexually aggressive teen has Beethovens 9th, a piece that extols the virtues of benevolent men, as his favorite tune.

at least as far as the message is concerned anyway. Both books are written well, although I would prefer I am legend at this point.

perhaps it is my jaded societal nature, the very one burgess tried to earn us about with this novel, but it is just not grabbing me. I think that for a book about ultra violence, it is pretty tame, and has little to offer so far beyond a dated opinion on the violent nature of man. as a society, we are not any more violent than we were in previous generations. Our destructive ability has increased, but that is simply a byproduct of technological advancement. I suppose I can see how this book, like I am legend, was novel in its time, but it does not age well in my opinion.

It should. If you have the version that I put down for the group, it should.

I think that the book is definitely rather tame by today's standards, but I suppose that just does more to make the author's point than anything else.

So this is tougher to navigate at the beginning than The Windup Girl, but after a few pages, you start to get a feel for the language. I liken it to trying to understand a scottish or australian person who uses a lot of unfamiliar slang, and even if he didn't his accent is so heavy that you can't understand him in the first place. But if you are around him long enough, you understand him, even when no one else does. So far, the writer has been tiptoeing around describing the violence in great detail, which seems to miss the mark in a book that is about an ultra violent society.

That makes sense. Truant's state at the end of the book is not one that seems capable of arranging all that material. It seems implausible that the source material could make its way through two completely insane caretakers and arrive on the other end in a relatively lucid state.

No worries. I will find something else. There is a kindle version.
http://www.epubbud.com/book.php?g=SLT...

What do you think about this for the next selection?
Battle Royale

The book proposes several possible explanations for Navy's desire to re enter the house after Karen moves out, but I think the most obvious explanation is he feels guilt after Tom's death. Say what you will about his possessiveness but I would say guilt is the most logical explanation for his return.

The story is definitely compelling, and the writing style is unlike anything I have seen before. So far, I like it quite a bit. It is interesting to think that the labyrinth changes are based on the individual psychologies of those who enter. I wonder what mine would look like, although I doubt I would have the balls to enter in the first place, given that the house has a penchant for creating doors out of thin air that the hallways and rooms did not comply with the laws of physics.

Yeah, I think it helps if you think of truant's footnotes as kind of a voiceover narration. it's been kind of slow going so far, but I am picking up speed.

that's what I'm thinking. a combo of prime, Netflix and hulu plus in lieu of cable tv is what I'm thinking. the only problem will be sports.

it's in the mail. should be here Thursday or Friday.

I still need to pick it up. Glad we are getting some better books going. I really enjoyed the fortress of solitude book. I just thought it tapered off at the end.

I think you could definitely make that argument.

well put. I did not actually consider the ethical ramifications of dispatching vampires opposed to zombies until late in the novel. there is definitely something to be said for the extermination of sentient beings versus mindless automatons.

except for the fact that it was written in 1954. it is obvious that this book is a cornerstone in the development of the zombie genre. while I read, I keep picking out little aspects that have been copied to the point of cliche. if this book were to be written today, it would be called uninspired, boring, and be lost in a sea of novels just like it. but what makes it awesome is that it was written 60 years ago. although, I'm fairly certain there were no more willys dealerships in 1978 when Matheson intended the story to take place.