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Greed. It worked, too. No matter how much anybody with any sense hated them, they went to go see them.

It's an interesting thought, not so much because of the movie or the book in particular but because of the question it brings up. Can a movie be great if the book it was based on was not?
And to be sure, one thing I've learned is that there are a lot of people who think the book is great. So, I proceed with that knowledge. I think the book is extremely entertaining but extremely light reading. I think the movie is a pretty good re-creation of the book and even >ahem< succeeds some places where the book fails. But man, is it in the ballpark with some of the book/movies mentioned here; On the Beach, A Clockwork Orange, Fight Club, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?/Blade Runner? Nah.
On the other hand, I have seen a movie that reached much further and achieved much more than its source material: The Godfather. It's a good book. Actually, it's a very good book. But it's a great movie, which makes sense. Mario Puzo is a good writer. But Francis Ford Coppola is a great (if erratic) director. Marlon Brando, Al Pacino, Robert Duvall, Robert DeNiro, John Cazale and Diane Keaton are great actors. Gordon Willis is a great cinematographer. What they could do together was bound to exceed what Puzo could do on his own.


When I was a kid, we could do that; and did. You could show up at the theater anytime, go into the auditorium in the middle of the film, watch the end, then watch the beginning, watch the end again if you wanted, and if you wanted to sit there and watch "Forbidden Planet" three times in one afternoon, you were welcome to it. "
I REMEMBER THAT! I came along later but I remember my mom taking us to see The Love Bug in the middle and us just sitting there and waiting for it to start again -- and it was so much fun to watch it again!
And Forbidden Planet! Another absolute classic that needs to mentioned on this thread without a doubt! For me, The Thing (from Another World), The Day the Earth Stood Still and Forbidden Planet are the Big Three of the Golden Age of science fiction movies.

The particular DVD edition that I own of it actually put that iconic image on ..."
I think there's an assumption that after a certain time if a twist is classic enough it's passed into the ether anyway. So, everybody knows that's Marion Crane's last shower even though it's only a third of the way into the movie, everyone knows who Luke's dad is, everyone knows the secret of the Matrix, etc.
Doesn't make it right, but I think that's the assumption.

I'm fairly certain that that was one of those moments, along with the story "Ylla" in The Martian Chronicles, that made me realize that there may be more to this science fiction than what I had previously thought.

How could I forget Close Encounters??? Definitely a fave, a great, great movie! Good call!
Planet of the Apes as well, especially the first time you see it. (view spoiler)

THAT'S what I mean by "castrated". Defanged. Made safe. Cuddly. Ugh.

Deeptanshu wrote: "Hmm this might be the nostalgia talking but I have to say Star Wars. That was the movie that made me become a fan of sci fi in the first place."
That is a completely legitimate choice! I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned it. I can't say it's my favorite but I would say that Star Wars was my favorite first time experience of any science fiction movie.
We lived in a place called the Azores. We'd heard about this phenomenon called Star Wars for a year before it ever reached us. Rather than sell tickets the normal way, they sold tickets to the kids in school first. There were two showings for kids, one at 10am and one at 1pm. Friends came over the night before because we lived closer to the theatre. We got there a whole TWO HOURS before the movie, which at the time seemed really dedicated.
Of course, it was fabulous, amazing, wonderful. I had actually read the novelization, Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker -- because I was "that kid". It did nothing, though, to dampen my ecstasy.

I can't watch Empire without watching Return right behind it. The same goes for Two Towers and Return The King in LotR. Too cliff hangery. Characters I love i..."
It's tough because The Empire Strikes Back is so great and Return of the Jedi is so terrible.

Um, I didn't speak ill of The Day of the Triffids. I just said it was post-apocalyptic survivor stuff. Actually, all of those books I listed, I liked them all. Yes, even The Martian. The Day of the Triffids I'm new to, but it was, in fact, terrific.
Just because I exhausted the science fiction movies that I think are the "best" that I've ever seen, I feel the need to mention again that Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back haven't really been mentioned and surely they're someone's favorites. No?
Another great one that I watched recently was THX 1138. It's weird but I don't think George Lucas ever did anything that exciting or that daring again.
Has anyone seen The Arrival? It's another one of my favorites because I had never heard of it. I picked it up in the video store just because of the title. I almost put it back because it starred Charlie Sheen aaaanndd I really dug it. It has the feel of an old 1950's B movie. I think it really works. If you haven't, you should check it out.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066434/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115571/?...

Spooky1947 wrote: "for me, the fun of a zombie movie/novel is the spread of the zombie plague, seeing everything break down...by the time you have zombies all over the place and it turns into a survival game it gets ..."
Man, lately, all I seem to come into contact with is post-apocalyptic survival stuff. Station Eleven, Parable of the Sower, Roadside Picnic, A Canticle for Leibowitz, and The Day of the Triffids. And the movie Z for Zachariah. Even The Martian is a survivor story, it's just the place he's in is in a perpetual state of apocalypse as far as humans are concerned. I love the figuring out how to survive and what that does to the human consciousness game.

THANKS, ANNALISA!!!

Hi Amelia,
It depends on what you're looking for and what you like most:
- An almost classic fantasy saga across differen..."
You should toss in some links for us lazy folks.

I like that there are many t..."
I remember reading this great article that talked about a situation where Larry Fessenden, the director of Habit (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113241/ Ignore it's IMDb rating. It's great and unconventional), was asked to settle a dispute between two geek/fanboy types over the "proper" way to kill a zombie. Fessenden drolly responded that zombies are, in fact, fictional characters so whatever your heart desires, have at it.

true Bobby, it IS a better experience to see stuff on the big screen...but then I have to sit around jonesin' for a smoke for 2 and a half hours...."
>Sigh<
It's just not easy being Spooky.

:-D
as for the movie, I usualy don't goto the movies (unless i..."
Money isn't everything. A whole new planet won't look as cool on your TV as it will at the theater. People who only saw Avatar on their TV missed the whole point of the movie. I would even say that's true for a lot of movies. Plus, you can't "drop in" the same way at home when you're pausing it go grab a drink and somebody's flushing the toilet, etc. I prefer to pay for the Experience.
I prefer to think we're seeing all the different permutations of Amelia's personality. She's like Sybil. (Remember Sybil?)

Nope, never struck me that way. Somehow, it was just an evolution. I will say, however, your point is an astute one because I saw the first Godzilla a while after I'd already started watching the others on Saturday morning. And that immediately became my favorite of the movies. Except for maybe the one that had Godzilla, Rodan and Mothra fighting Ghidora(sp?) the Three-Headed-Monster.
Have you seen Gojira the original, Japanese, sans-Raymond Burr, Godzilla?
By the way, I don't like Terminator 2 as much because they made the Terminator a good guy. Lame.
It's funny about the monster yoga discussion. I was watching a zombie movie the other day and it made me wonder if that's where vampires have gone. Because for zombies, there's still a cost. Nobody wants to become a zombie. Did they become popular because vampires became too romantic to supply, any more, what we initially needed from them? Which, I think is some kind of punishment for desire. Vampire's for sex, which we no longer consider diabolical (sort of) and zombies for hunger. Nowadays in our "greed-is-good" society, we need to be reminded of the dark side of that as societal philosophy. Whereas sex, we're just coming around to the idea that maybe isn't so bad after all -- ergo the castration of the vampire.

ME THREE! Me and my dad used to watch them on Saturday afternoons after cartoons! We used to make fun of the toy cars and buildings getting crushed and everything and still never missed 'em. My favorite was well, the first Godzilla movie. Though, I didn't see the actual first Godzilla movie until I was an adult. So different! But, I personally still have a soft spot in my heart for the Raymond Burr version. The whole "reporter-reporting-on-the-city-as-it's-being-laid-to-waste struck me with almost biblical force. That one actually, I saw on a Friday night "Creature Double Feature".
But dang, Amelia! Monolith Monsters? You were hard-core!