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Wow, ok - a different perspective. Thanks for the feedback. I am reading Helter Skelter now.
I found this book to be trite and very very conspiracy theory. I felt the author was grasping at straws and trying to fit 'theory' into facts. Helter Skelter is written by the prosecuting attorney of the case and is considered to be not only THE definitive novel on the Manson subject, but also considered to be one of THE defining books on True Crime in America.
Eric, couldn't agree more. Took a ton of notes and created a list of 'players/character' linking one to the other. My actual notes, NICK, have lots of holes. I think he lost his own point at some place in time, became a drunk, and didn't follow up his own conspiracies. The book rambled...and very little did he disprove as to Manson having been a drug peddler for the CIA (whah???). Oh it was crazy-train...
I strongly disagree. Yes the CIA stuff was mostly pure speculation mainly, but the CIA are hardly going to come out and publicly talk about this period in their history are they?
More over if Tom O'neil is right about the author of Helter Skelter , then this at the very least points to deliberate perjury by the criminal prosecution in this case and at worst a large scale cover up by Californian officials.
This book is most certainly worth a read.
Eric -- Helter Skelter is debunked by O'Neill in this very book. There are notes in Vince Bugliosi's own handwriting with prove definitively that Bugliosi had encouraged Terry Melcher to lie under oath, which Bugliosi's coprosecutor Stephen Kay agreed would have overturned all verdicts on the Manson case had it been revealed at the trial. Basically everyone who actually knows Bugliosi believes he's a liar and a fraud.
The fact that anyone would recommend Helter Skelter after reading this book is insane. Bugliosi is a narcissitic maniac covering up Hollywood sex pests so he could make his career, and the book lays out his crimes and misdemeanors in stark detail.
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Wow, ok - a different perspective. Thanks for the feedback. I am reading Helter Skelter now.
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I found this book to be trite and very very conspiracy theory. I felt the author was grasping at straws and trying to fit 'theory' into facts. Helter Skelter is written by the prosecuting attorney of the case and is considered to be not only THE definitive novel on the Manson subject, but also considered to be one of THE defining books on True Crime in America.
Eric, couldn't agree more. Took a ton of notes and created a list of 'players/character' linking one to the other. My actual notes, NICK, have lots of holes. I think he lost his own point at some place in time, became a drunk, and didn't follow up his own conspiracies. The book rambled...and very little did he disprove as to Manson having been a drug peddler for the CIA (whah???). Oh it was crazy-train...
I strongly disagree. Yes the CIA stuff was mostly pure speculation mainly, but the CIA are hardly going to come out and publicly talk about this period in their history are they?More over if Tom O'neil is right about the author of Helter Skelter , then this at the very least points to deliberate perjury by the criminal prosecution in this case and at worst a large scale cover up by Californian officials.
This book is most certainly worth a read.
Eric -- Helter Skelter is debunked by O'Neill in this very book. There are notes in Vince Bugliosi's own handwriting with prove definitively that Bugliosi had encouraged Terry Melcher to lie under oath, which Bugliosi's coprosecutor Stephen Kay agreed would have overturned all verdicts on the Manson case had it been revealed at the trial. Basically everyone who actually knows Bugliosi believes he's a liar and a fraud.
The fact that anyone would recommend Helter Skelter after reading this book is insane. Bugliosi is a narcissitic maniac covering up Hollywood sex pests so he could make his career, and the book lays out his crimes and misdemeanors in stark detail.
