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Statistic says black people sell drugs more often than white people do . And nobody is jailed for using drugs, neither black nor white. So the question should be : Why black people do not stop SELLING (to distribute) drugs?
Your comment should be addressed to Jeremiah, since it was his initial question. But since you didn't:
Seriously? This tired, inaccurate, stereotypical, racist trope? Statistically, drug use/sales are approximately the same for black people and whites. Over policing in black communities accounts for the higher incarceration rate - which you might have ascertained if you'd read the book.
Having said that, my answer is: for the same reason whites don't stop selling (to distribute) drugs.
Seriously? This leftie answer is you answer? Statistically black people distribute drugs more often than whites. And the arrests are made for distribution (sale) and not the use. L
Victoria, you are correct. On average people of color do, in fact, distribute drugs more often than white people. Don't worry, you're halfway there. This fact is either due to the existence of intrinsic or extrinsic factors. If you believe that it is an intrinsic factor that people of color distribute more drugs on average than white people, then you are, simply put, a racist as you are stating that there is an inherent difference between people of color and white people. If you believe that this is due to an extrinsic factor, then you admit that systemic racism does, in fact, exist and therefore invalidating your argument.
I was speaking about statistics , and not about the reasons of why it is so. I am glad you agree that more arrests are due to more people sell drugs. And it is not completely because of systemic racism in police as other readers try to convince us. If you ask me about reasons why black people are selling drugs more than whites- there could be a very long answer going deep in " black culture" (not a culture of selling or using drugs - I do not believe that some people are born into selling or using drugs more than others), but a culture (mentality) , how it takes black people where they are in terms of drugs and self-victimization(this has been installed into their culture by Democrats). As I said it is a very long discussion. And this is not a place for it. But you may try to read Candace Owens' book "Blackout". I have not finished it yet but as soon as I have I will be ready to talk about the subject in the comments to it. I am reading it with feeling that she speaks my own thoughts on the subject. And considering that I am not American, and even not a North American, the fact that I got to the same conclusion (on the reasons of that statistics and some other facts) , as a Black American woman (even before reading her book) - surprises me a lot.
As a nonviolent individual who consumes elements of 'black culture' daily, I can attest that this is not a cause for the issues you are speaking of, but that is only anecdotal so I'll give more empirical data. White people consume more 'black culture' than black people do. If what you're saying was true, wouldn't that affect white people in the same way? Going back to your first sentence, you were asking about the reasons why people of color are more likely to distribute drugs. Making it out as if you were merely stating a statistic directly contradicts your earlier comment and comes off as being made in bad faith as you've stated,
"the question should be : Why black people do not stop SELLING (to distribute) drugs?"
It seems like you are aware that this is due to extrinsic factors. If I were to entertain the notion that this is due to 'black culture', that would still be a product of systemic racism. Reaganomics, Jim Crow, redlining, and school choice have all been huge contributors in making and keeping black Americans in poverty. If you don't believe me you can simply look back at objective history:
After the civil war, slave states still needed to rely on slavery for their economy to prosper so they exploited a loophole in our 13th amendment to be able to still have slaves. They made it incredibly easy to send black people to prison in order to use them as slave labor again. Private prisons began forming. Due to the fact that private prisons make money from this free labor, they do everything in their power to make sure that they have as many prisoners as possible and that these prisoners wind up back in prison because it is simply more profitable. It's the reason why we currently house ~25% of the world's prisoners when we make up only 4% of the world's population. Jim Crow laws and segregation kept black people poor and uneducated because black public schools did not have the proper funding due to the fact that when slavery ended, the slaves had nothing. If we fast-forward to Ronald Reagan, things only get worse. His war on drugs placed a sentencing disparity between cocaine (mainly used by white people at the time) and crack (mainly used by black people at the time) possession charges. 5 grams of crack would land you in prison for at least 5 years whereas 500 grams of cocaine carried the same sentencing. This was disparity was admitted by Republican politicians to disproportionately target black communities. Redlining, the practice of fencing off areas where companies would invest based on the racial demographics of the population, made it increasingly difficult for poor black people to succeed financially.
Too many black families are still in this situation because the system has been rigged against them for so long, that, by default, they begin their life in this country on the wrong foot. The policies that have been implemented (overwhelmingly by states'-righters but occasionally by Democrats like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden) still affect black communities and make it difficult for them to succeed.
Statistics can be manipulated. As mentioned by another commenter, black communities are over policed. If other communities were policed and searched the way black communities are, the numbers would most likely increase. The types of drugs being sold would also be reveled. I mean, how do you think poor blacks are getting access to prescription drugs and/or cocaine?
No one is trying to justify or defend those in the illegal distribution of drugs. The point is the black community was specifically targeted for a "War on Drugs".
Why aren't the people popping pills, snorting cocaine being, and those selling them being arrested at the same rate as those in poor black communities doing they same?
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Statistic says black people sell drugs more often than white people do . And nobody is jailed for using drugs, neither black nor white. So the question should be : Why black people do not stop SELLING (to distribute) drugs?
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Your comment should be addressed to Jeremiah, since it was his initial question. But since you didn't:Seriously? This tired, inaccurate, stereotypical, racist trope? Statistically, drug use/sales are approximately the same for black people and whites. Over policing in black communities accounts for the higher incarceration rate - which you might have ascertained if you'd read the book.
Having said that, my answer is: for the same reason whites don't stop selling (to distribute) drugs.
Seriously? This leftie answer is you answer? Statistically black people distribute drugs more often than whites. And the arrests are made for distribution (sale) and not the use. L
Victoria, you are correct. On average people of color do, in fact, distribute drugs more often than white people. Don't worry, you're halfway there. This fact is either due to the existence of intrinsic or extrinsic factors. If you believe that it is an intrinsic factor that people of color distribute more drugs on average than white people, then you are, simply put, a racist as you are stating that there is an inherent difference between people of color and white people. If you believe that this is due to an extrinsic factor, then you admit that systemic racism does, in fact, exist and therefore invalidating your argument.
I was speaking about statistics , and not about the reasons of why it is so. I am glad you agree that more arrests are due to more people sell drugs. And it is not completely because of systemic racism in police as other readers try to convince us. If you ask me about reasons why black people are selling drugs more than whites- there could be a very long answer going deep in " black culture" (not a culture of selling or using drugs - I do not believe that some people are born into selling or using drugs more than others), but a culture (mentality) , how it takes black people where they are in terms of drugs and self-victimization(this has been installed into their culture by Democrats). As I said it is a very long discussion. And this is not a place for it. But you may try to read Candace Owens' book "Blackout". I have not finished it yet but as soon as I have I will be ready to talk about the subject in the comments to it. I am reading it with feeling that she speaks my own thoughts on the subject. And considering that I am not American, and even not a North American, the fact that I got to the same conclusion (on the reasons of that statistics and some other facts) , as a Black American woman (even before reading her book) - surprises me a lot.
As a nonviolent individual who consumes elements of 'black culture' daily, I can attest that this is not a cause for the issues you are speaking of, but that is only anecdotal so I'll give more empirical data. White people consume more 'black culture' than black people do. If what you're saying was true, wouldn't that affect white people in the same way? Going back to your first sentence, you were asking about the reasons why people of color are more likely to distribute drugs. Making it out as if you were merely stating a statistic directly contradicts your earlier comment and comes off as being made in bad faith as you've stated, "the question should be : Why black people do not stop SELLING (to distribute) drugs?"
It seems like you are aware that this is due to extrinsic factors. If I were to entertain the notion that this is due to 'black culture', that would still be a product of systemic racism. Reaganomics, Jim Crow, redlining, and school choice have all been huge contributors in making and keeping black Americans in poverty. If you don't believe me you can simply look back at objective history:
After the civil war, slave states still needed to rely on slavery for their economy to prosper so they exploited a loophole in our 13th amendment to be able to still have slaves. They made it incredibly easy to send black people to prison in order to use them as slave labor again. Private prisons began forming. Due to the fact that private prisons make money from this free labor, they do everything in their power to make sure that they have as many prisoners as possible and that these prisoners wind up back in prison because it is simply more profitable. It's the reason why we currently house ~25% of the world's prisoners when we make up only 4% of the world's population. Jim Crow laws and segregation kept black people poor and uneducated because black public schools did not have the proper funding due to the fact that when slavery ended, the slaves had nothing. If we fast-forward to Ronald Reagan, things only get worse. His war on drugs placed a sentencing disparity between cocaine (mainly used by white people at the time) and crack (mainly used by black people at the time) possession charges. 5 grams of crack would land you in prison for at least 5 years whereas 500 grams of cocaine carried the same sentencing. This was disparity was admitted by Republican politicians to disproportionately target black communities. Redlining, the practice of fencing off areas where companies would invest based on the racial demographics of the population, made it increasingly difficult for poor black people to succeed financially.
Too many black families are still in this situation because the system has been rigged against them for so long, that, by default, they begin their life in this country on the wrong foot. The policies that have been implemented (overwhelmingly by states'-righters but occasionally by Democrats like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden) still affect black communities and make it difficult for them to succeed.
Statistics can be manipulated. As mentioned by another commenter, black communities are over policed. If other communities were policed and searched the way black communities are, the numbers would most likely increase. The types of drugs being sold would also be reveled. I mean, how do you think poor blacks are getting access to prescription drugs and/or cocaine? No one is trying to justify or defend those in the illegal distribution of drugs. The point is the black community was specifically targeted for a "War on Drugs".
Why aren't the people popping pills, snorting cocaine being, and those selling them being arrested at the same rate as those in poor black communities doing they same?
