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I didn't review the book...I just said I couldn't get past the "f" word and I personally hate that good writers use the word when it isn't necessary. I don't know what "Twilight: The Complete Illustrated Movie Companion" is. I haven't read it or given it a score (to my knowledge) if there is a score of any kind by me, it is a mistake.
Maybe you need a bit more practice using this site then as on your profile under recent updates it clearly shows you giving Gone Girl 1* and that Twilight Book 5*.
How could the "f" word not be necessary when the author is describing a broken marriage leading to (spoilers)lies, kidnap, murder, etc.(/spoilers)
You will clearly struggle if you decide to ignore any form of entertainment with swearing in it.
You are right. I don't know this site very well. I just made a quick effort to find the 5 star rating and couldn't find it. I will be changing it when I do find it! I do know it is getting more difficult to find books (and movies for that matter) that don't spatter their writing with the filthy language but I try to stay away from it. And encourage my friends and family to do so also. Thank you for bringing the Twilight rating to my attention, by the way, I am definitely getting that changed!
Authors use the F word because the majority of people tend use the word, too. Though its use in some books and movies can be excessive. As it not being appropriate for teens, well, responsible parent's decision. should be aware of their child is reading.
I appreciate when someone posts something like this. I don't have time to preview all the books or YA books my children want to read. I use my best judgement, preview the ones I am unsure of and use the web and scan for these kind of comments for the rest of them. Thank You.
I would not want my teen reading this book. It's not about the swearing. It's more about the disturbing twisted behaviors.
Teenagers can also differentiate between 'real-life' and 'fiction' - the book is a thriller that is realistic enough to keep you interested. Would I give it to a 5th-grader? No. High schooler? Sure. If they're interested in it, why not? Surely any kid that's self-aware enough to seek out a book outside of school (and ask permission??) is going to be able to handle the content. FWIW my parents never monitored what I was reading.
I agree Caitlin but unfortunately there are no levels of ratings. For example my oldest is in 5th grade but well above the Children's books in reading level and maturity. However, a lot of YA content is not appropriate. It's hard to be a parent with an elementary reader you don't want to discourage but also want to expose to the world in reasonable doses.
I completely understand- I was the same way. I skipped over YA altogether because my reading level jumped higher than my maturity level. It was a rough few years but by high school it all evened out. I'm just glad that kids are still reading!
Considering that books such as Twilight are marketed to YAs, I can understand wanting to screen them first. A good way to find decent recommends though might be to check out this list: http://www.better-ed.org/blog/middle-... Definite difference in reading recommends there. I know what we're suggesting to our kids.
Joann I think it's really funny that you don't object to rape, murder, and the tons of other disturbing things in this book. Instead.... the "f word" is the problem.
Personally, if your Teen is not mature enough to handle of few F words or even some graphic sexual language then they are in trouble. The real world is an offensive place and if, at that age, they need to be sheltered from such minut things then you have bigger problems as parents. I think this is perfect for teens, although it is a fictitious story, it can teach a lesson some need to learn. Trust. Just because you are married to someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of hurting you are doing wrong by you.
What a person gets out of this book is dependent on the maturity of the individual, which in turn is a reflection on ones parenting. Don't chop my head off here it is just an opinion.
Oh My. The F word. That' the problem with teenagers, the F word. What if they read Burgess? Are you going to have a stroke?
The F word is how some people talk. You may not use it, but a lot of people, especially in high stress situations, swear.
Ok I'm just wondering if this book is gory like bruh. Teenagers aren't infants, we have heard people say f*ck before. We say it all the time. Also, you have a problem with swearing and not murder?
...You really think teenagers don't use the F word? I'm crying.
Lillian, the book is not gory at all. There's quite a bit of graphic sexual language - not so much porny sex scenes as people talking crudely about sex, if that makes sense - but the violence is extremely tame. The disturbing and dark parts of this book are pure psychological thriller - think twisted mind games, not literal torture.
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I didn't review the book...I just said I couldn't get past the "f" word and I personally hate that good writers use the word when it isn't necessary. I don't know what "Twilight: The Complete Illustrated Movie Companion" is. I haven't read it or given it a score (to my knowledge) if there is a score of any kind by me, it is a mistake.
Maybe you need a bit more practice using this site then as on your profile under recent updates it clearly shows you giving Gone Girl 1* and that Twilight Book 5*.How could the "f" word not be necessary when the author is describing a broken marriage leading to (spoilers)lies, kidnap, murder, etc.(/spoilers)
You will clearly struggle if you decide to ignore any form of entertainment with swearing in it.
You are right. I don't know this site very well. I just made a quick effort to find the 5 star rating and couldn't find it. I will be changing it when I do find it! I do know it is getting more difficult to find books (and movies for that matter) that don't spatter their writing with the filthy language but I try to stay away from it. And encourage my friends and family to do so also. Thank you for bringing the Twilight rating to my attention, by the way, I am definitely getting that changed!
Authors use the F word because the majority of people tend use the word, too. Though its use in some books and movies can be excessive. As it not being appropriate for teens, well, responsible parent's decision. should be aware of their child is reading.
I appreciate when someone posts something like this. I don't have time to preview all the books or YA books my children want to read. I use my best judgement, preview the ones I am unsure of and use the web and scan for these kind of comments for the rest of them. Thank You.
I would not want my teen reading this book. It's not about the swearing. It's more about the disturbing twisted behaviors.
Teenagers can also differentiate between 'real-life' and 'fiction' - the book is a thriller that is realistic enough to keep you interested. Would I give it to a 5th-grader? No. High schooler? Sure. If they're interested in it, why not? Surely any kid that's self-aware enough to seek out a book outside of school (and ask permission??) is going to be able to handle the content. FWIW my parents never monitored what I was reading.
I agree Caitlin but unfortunately there are no levels of ratings. For example my oldest is in 5th grade but well above the Children's books in reading level and maturity. However, a lot of YA content is not appropriate. It's hard to be a parent with an elementary reader you don't want to discourage but also want to expose to the world in reasonable doses.
I completely understand- I was the same way. I skipped over YA altogether because my reading level jumped higher than my maturity level. It was a rough few years but by high school it all evened out. I'm just glad that kids are still reading!
Considering that books such as Twilight are marketed to YAs, I can understand wanting to screen them first. A good way to find decent recommends though might be to check out this list: http://www.better-ed.org/blog/middle-... Definite difference in reading recommends there. I know what we're suggesting to our kids.
Teens hear and use a lot worse than that at school everyday and considering how often the word is used , it would seem silly to exclude it from a characters vocabulary. If you think saying fuck is bad than i'd recommend visiting a public school for a day.
Joann I think it's really funny that you don't object to rape, murder, and the tons of other disturbing things in this book. Instead.... the "f word" is the problem.
Personally, if your Teen is not mature enough to handle of few F words or even some graphic sexual language then they are in trouble. The real world is an offensive place and if, at that age, they need to be sheltered from such minut things then you have bigger problems as parents. I think this is perfect for teens, although it is a fictitious story, it can teach a lesson some need to learn. Trust. Just because you are married to someone doesn't mean they aren't capable of hurting you are doing wrong by you. What a person gets out of this book is dependent on the maturity of the individual, which in turn is a reflection on ones parenting. Don't chop my head off here it is just an opinion.
Oh My. The F word. That' the problem with teenagers, the F word. What if they read Burgess? Are you going to have a stroke?
The F word is how some people talk. You may not use it, but a lot of people, especially in high stress situations, swear.
Ok I'm just wondering if this book is gory like bruh. Teenagers aren't infants, we have heard people say f*ck before. We say it all the time. Also, you have a problem with swearing and not murder?
...You really think teenagers don't use the F word? I'm crying.
Lillian, the book is not gory at all. There's quite a bit of graphic sexual language - not so much porny sex scenes as people talking crudely about sex, if that makes sense - but the violence is extremely tame. The disturbing and dark parts of this book are pure psychological thriller - think twisted mind games, not literal torture.
We can definitely trust your opinion, right? Right?