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message 1: by Lilyan (last edited Jul 11, 2012 01:36AM) (new)

Lilyan Have you read the Omen Machine? I was a bit bummed by how Goodkind ended the series in Confesser, so I didnt bother with the Omen Machine, though I am abit intrigued to read about Magda


message 2: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M Lilyan wrote: "Have you read the Omen Machine? I was a bit bummed by how Goodkind ended the series in Confesser, so I didnt bother with the Omen Machine, though I am abit intrigued to read about Magda"

well I read every book he wrote, and currently reading the first confessor...

as for the Omen Machine I admit I was disappointed by it, it's the first in a new series, and if I'm not mistaken ...as long as SOT series, too long, too much waiting... and I loved the premise of the first series more...

the first confessor is suffering from the fact that I'm reading and LOVING the wheel of time series by Robert Jordan, I just can't bring myself to care for it...and the fact that I know all the major characters and what will happen to them doesn't help at all( I did some rereading of the parts that spoke of the great war and the first confessor in anticipation for this one)...it's not fun to know how the book ends before you red it, though I'm hoping there will be some kind of surprise for me in the end....


message 3: by Lilyan (new)

Lilyan Oh ya, I saw that you were reading Jordan! I actually got into SOT while I was reading WOT. Both are great series in their own rights, but Jordan for me is a master.


message 4: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M Lilyan wrote: "Oh ya, I saw that you were reading Jordan! I actually got into SOT while I was reading WOT. Both are great series in their own rights, but Jordan for me is a master."

oh I'm glad that you agree, many people don't like either, but I love them both :)


message 5: by Lilyan (new)

Lilyan :( what happened!


message 6: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M I don't know, I just hated it... I couldn't agree to anything the characters did, none of their actions made sense to me, it was very different from what I expected after reading the original series, things weren't the same, I can come up with at least a dozen contradictions from what was said before... and that's without rereading the books...finally the book had a serious need of an editor-I suspect he had none-if it was a paper book I could've teared off many pages without damaging anything but the binding :(


message 7: by Lilyan (new)

Lilyan That bad?! I like staying away from these books just for the reason that you said in your review, they start making you question the original series. Authors should seriously quit while they're ahead and not ruin their reps.


message 8: by Terry (new)

Terry Goodkind Jasmine, Of course there was an editor. The very same that has collaborated with me on all of my SWORD OF TRUTH series books. It would be difficult to imagine spending 9+ months working on something only to not bother involving an editor (and a proofreader, etc).

I have no idea what contradictions you are expressing and I am utterly confused as to how you would suggest this book manages to 'destroy everything' I built. Explain please?


message 9: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M Terry wrote: "Jasmine, Of course there was an editor. The very same that has collaborated with me on all of my SWORD OF TRUTH series books. It would be difficult to imagine spending 9+ months working on somethin..."

OMG! Mr. Goodkind, If I knew you'd be reading my comments I would never have wrote them, please don't hate me, I'm a HUGE fan of your books, and I think I might have overreacted, probably because I miss Richard and Kahlan.

English is a second language, and when I said contradictions, is not exactly what I meant, I meant the whole feel of the book was different, for example, there was a lot of weight on prophesy in the series, here it almost wasn't there.
in the end of the book many of the contradictions I could see throughout the book were actually explained, but I just couldn't accept them, only if Quinn's (Kolo's) history was studied we can expect the confusion, but there were many historians, and we knew Quinn dies just a little while after the events of TFC, so how did he manage to write the instruction book, alter the entire history of the keep and keep his to duties.

finally, the thing that bothers me the most, and which probably was the reason for the low rating, is the fact that Magda became confessor before the end of the war, it was the ONE thing I was sure of, it was how Richard made his final conclusion in the Beautiful book (Confessor) I just couldn't accept the way it happened, and just two days after the creation of the Sword...I just couldn't take it...it's probably just me

I love you books Mr. Goodkind, God knows Kahlan is actually my role model, she changed my life, and I'm indebted to her and you, her creator... and I'm waiting for the next OM book....


message 10: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Jasmine, my husband didn't think there was an editor either. He got so annoyed by the obvious lack of thoroughness in editing that he says he simply cannot finish the book. The last straw for him was the part of the book where the exact same phrasing was used to describe a woman pausing to listen for someone following her (or something) 3-4 times, within about 5-7 paragraphs.


message 11: by Rich (new)

Rich Zowaski @Jasmine if you remember, Emperor Salachan (sp?) Is still alive and the barrier is not yet up by the end of TFC. There is more to come, look at the title: The Legend Begins


message 12: by Angela (new)

Angela The story was absolutely wonderful!!!! I didn't find any contradictions and didn't have a doubt that there was an editor. I don't know why anyone would think it was finished when the war wasn't over by the end of the book! I'm looking forward to continuations with both The Omen Machine and TFC!!!!!!!


message 13: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M Angela wrote: "The story was absolutely wonderful!!!! I didn't find any contradictions and didn't have a doubt that there was an editor. I don't know why anyone would think it was finished when the war wasn't o..."

well, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, i'm glad you liked the book


message 14: by Kate (new)

Kate Auden What you're saying just isn't true. You should reread the books. They don't contradict themselves and instead follow impeccable logic. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't make perfect sense.
I can't believe that you would give the book such an insanely low rating. Even with what you believe about the book, that's super low. It means you actually disliked the book. The only way I can see how you could dislike it that much and still be a lover of the series is if you just didn't understand it at all. That's really unfortunate.
And of course Goodkind is looking! You are single handedly bringing a HUGE percentage of his ratings down by giving such a ridiculously low rating!
Quite unfortunate, since this is one of the best and most intricate books ever so gracefully written and it deserves to reflect that.


message 15: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M Katie wrote: "What you're saying just isn't true. You should reread the books. They don't contradict themselves and instead follow impeccable logic. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't ..."

of course you have the right to voice your opinion as much as I do, but i don't appreciate the tone in which you're doing so, please ..do that in your own review


message 16: by Lilyan (new)

Lilyan Was Goodreads designed as an ego boost for authors? How odd! and here I was thinking that it was for people to give honest ratings and reviews! Silly me! Let me go change all my ratings to 5 so I won't upset any authors!


message 17: by Eric (last edited Oct 26, 2012 10:24PM) (new)

Eric Allen Katie wrote: "What you're saying just isn't true. You should reread the books. They don't contradict themselves and instead follow impeccable logic. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't ..."

What's truly unfortunate here is your inability to understand the fact that because you enjoyed a book doesn't mean that everyone else did. If she felt that the book deserved a 2 star rating she is certainly allowed to give it a 2 star rating. Your disagreeing with that rating is no grounds to insult her. If everyone on Earth shared the exact same opinion, it would be a very boring world. Sure, you are free to comment on the reviews and opinions of others, but always remember, you are typically treated with as much respect as you show others. So, when you tell someone that their opinion is not valid because it is contrary to yours, rather than telling them what you enjoyed about the book, and pointing out parts of the book that you felt were especially indicative of your own rating and inviting a civil discussion on the matter, you invite the ire, contempt, and disrespect of those who read your comments. Civility costs you nothing. The lack of it can cost you more than you ever imagined.


message 18: by Jasmine M (new)

Jasmine M I do blame myself sometimes for not writing a full review explaining why I didn't like this book, but this would be defending myself and I don't think I need to do so, besides when I wrote this review I was so disappointed, so upset by this book I just wrote what I felt at the time, my feelings did not change mind you, and I still don't feel like explainig myself.
thanks Lilyan and Eric, I agree with you that everyone is entiteled to voice thier opinions and they should do it with civility


message 19: by Eric (new)

Eric Allen It's not your fault. You don't need to justify your rating with a lengthy review that points out everything you disliked. Just saying you didn't like it is enough for most people. Unfortunately, there are certain individuals out there in the world who think that anyone who disagrees with them is an idiot. You could give them pages upon pages of justifications for your opinion and they will still find something to insult you over. Unless you enjoy arguing, and some people do, it's best just to ignore them.

I only just started reading this book, and I see what people mean about it seeming like there was no editor. During one conversation, Magda compares a character to a vulture three separate times, and certain words and phrases are repeated a lot. It seems pretty sloppy and lazy, not like the Goodkind books I remember from my teenage years. It has been some time since I read the Sword of Truth books, but I remember them being much better written than this.


message 20: by Jackie (new)

Jackie Fire and Ice Book Reviews (blog) I like the book, but that is my opinion. I do feel that there were some parts and the book that was poorly written, but however I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So if you don't like the book, that's fine, if you do like the book, then that's great. But everyone should get their own opinion that is what a review is all about.


message 21: by Kim (new)

Kim I absolutely loved this book. It has the same feel as the early books in the Sword of Truth series, which is a sort of originality and magic that tended to die out as the series grew ever longer. This one had me hooked though! Finally a backstory to a character that is referenced in so many of the other books! Well done Mr. Goodkind, you brought me back!


message 22: by Misty (new)

Misty I have read every book in this series except Warheart. I started the series around the 5th book in the SOT series and anxiously awaited the next book every two years. Honestly, I loved the entire series, but I got a little confused when the Richard and Kahlan series started. I read them, I like them, but I didn't really understand them. I tried going back and rereading some of the SOT just to get a better understanding of what was going on, but it did little good. I hadn't realized a new book had even been released, so I will read Warheart in the next week or so and post a full review of my opinion :) on the book as a whole. However, I have decided that I need to read the entire series again.


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