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Jan 30, 2025 05:25PM
What do you think about Greenland becoming part of the US?
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I personally think this is something other than getting Greenland for the U.S. Trump for better or worse is playing a different game.
Papaphilly wrote: "I personally think this is something other than getting Greenland for the U.S. Trump for better or worse is playing a different game."Agreed. It's part of his shake-the-tree strategy to see what falls out.
Interesting days!
All the talk from Trump has Greenland officials talking independence. It would be harder for the US to acquire a sovereign nation than to buy someone else's territory.Best case scenario for Trump. Greenland follows through and declares independence from Denmark. To fund their new government and become self sufficient, Greenland will then have to open itself up to oil and mineral exploration and extraction. Trump steps in to make an agreement allowing American companies to extract and acquire those resources. He might get an expanded military presence in Greenland as part of a deal. Greenland gets to chart its own course, reassured that the US is a fiend, not an adversary. Trump gets everything he wants without the headache of administering the island.
My latest thoughts on the US acquiring Greenland mirror my thoughts on all the sovereignties Trump has expressed interest in, including Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, Iran and the Gaza Strip...We have entered the new era of
MIGHT IS RIGHT
in which the world's self-declared leading superpower does whatever it wants to do.
I predict 2026 will be cataclysmic.
Russia has shown that large states can attempt to take from smaller ones — and the world did not truly stop it.In many ways, it adapted and accepted a new reality.
Perhaps we are standing at the threshold of a return to an age of empires, where power matters more than rules.
History has a way of repeating itself when we convince ourselves that it can’t.
J.J. wrote: "All the talk from Trump has Greenland officials talking independence. It would be harder for the US to acquire a sovereign nation than to buy someone else's territory.Best case scenario for Trump..."
Great post but maybe edit "fiend" to friend.
The Underground is back! But where is James, Harry and Jim...Game is on.
My latest thoughts on the US acquiring Greenland mirror my thoughts on all the sovereignties Trump has expressed interest in, including Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, Iran and the Gaza Strip...We have entered the new era of
MIGHT IS RIGHT
in which the world's self-declared leading superpower does whatever it wants to do.
I predict 2026 will be cataclysmic...."
I will take your bet and make this plain statement, it will not be cataclysmic. This is geopolitics as its best.
I think it is right for China to invade Taiwan, Mongolia, and take a few Islands. This might also be the right time for India to invade bangladesh, nepal and Myanmar.
Does anyone want New Zealand?We have natural resources aplenty...namely the All Blacks, sheep, the cute Kiwi (bird), the Maori haka, more sheep...
I can't think of any more, but I'm sure it'll come to me...
Watch this space!
Tony wrote: "The Underground is back! But where is James, Harry and Jim...Game is on."They're lurking in the Underground nearby, Tony! Rest assured, they'll be back.
P.S. Salutations to you and keep up the good work at your end!
Papaphilly wrote: "My latest thoughts on the US acquiring Greenland mirror my thoughts on all the sovereignties Trump has expressed interest in, including Venezuela, Colombia, Cuba, Iran and the Gaza Strip...We hav..."
...geopolitics at its best or worst?
Lance wrote: "...geopolitics at its best or worst?..."This is geopolitics as it works and I do not see it in of itself as good nor bad.. I suppose where you stand looking at it it may matter. Your list has very different situations and causes. Yet it is all geopolitics.
I think you need to look at each situation as separate and then look at the bigger picture as it affects each situation and is affected by each situation.
As for Greenland, the U.S. will NOT invade Greenland. It WILL NOT happen. Trump for better or worse is trolling people. Greenland is going to declare independence as is their right. The U.S. already has a very large military base there and this is not what you think is going on.
Lance wrote: "...geopolitics at its best or worst?"Considering that the bottom end of worst geopolitics includes the Second World War in which about 10 million people per year (mostly civilians) died for seven years, Trump trolling Denmark over one of its colonies barely registers.
I'll let the curator of Battleship New Jersey explain the real issue.
https://youtu.be/Z4bkcBkC5AU?si=o_g3w...
Tony wrote: "The Underground is back! But where is James, Harry and Jim...Game is on."Just sitting back, Tony...and watching whatever the chaotic game is, play out! My brain is fried from all the happenings, so I'm all ears if you can figure out the current state of the world...
The only thing I will ask, given Greenland is the topic at hand, is can we be certain the grand masterplan is not something so simple as selling ice to the Eskimos? :)
What I'd like to know is why did they call a place that's mainly ice Greenland and a place that's mainly green Iceland?...or is that getting off topic?
Anyone got any updates on this topic or Greenland in general?
I note Trump has softened his stance on Greenland lately.No longer is he alluding to invading the big island or even purchasing it. He's now using terms like "Increasing America's presence there."
I suspect this has something to do with the EU's surprisingly strong response to his references to invading.
The game continues and I suspect not even Trump knows how the game ends.
Hi, just wanted to add that Greenland‘s talk about independence is also linked to them siding even stronger with the EU than before - just on their own terms and not on Denmark‘s terms.
Alina wrote: "Hi, just wanted to add that Greenland‘s talk about independence is also linked to them siding even stronger with the EU than before - just on their own terms and not on Denmark‘s terms."Yes the Greenlanders' push for autonomy is strengthening for sure.
Greenland represents the fastest way to advance AI, as it is rich in minerals and rare earth elements that are still largely unexplored. It also represents a strategic point for attacking Europe. There’s no point beating around the bush. The EU and Europe in general have never exactly been well-liked, and lately that sentiment is becoming more and more visible among many nations.However, the issue remains one: it is an ‘unexplored’ land. And what do tyrants do with unexplored lands? They conquer them
M. wrote: "Greenland represents the fastest way to advance AI, as it is rich in minerals and rare earth elements that are still largely unexplored. It also represents a strategic point for attacking Europe. T..."There's no doubt Greenland is rich in minerals. The BIG problem is most of them are very difficult to access, buried as they are beneath the snow or beneath the ice cap. I guess they'll become more desirable as the dollar value of those minerals grows.
Meanwhile, the strategic advantages of owning Greenland and thereby controlling the Arctic sea lanes (especially as the ice melts) and Arctic air traffic lanes are indisputable as Planet Earth enters another Cold War era.
Trump and the good ol' U.S. of A. will be very aware of all that I'm sure.
Lance wrote: "M. wrote: "Greenland represents the fastest way to advance AI, as it is rich in minerals and rare earth elements that are still largely unexplored. It also represents a strategic point for attackin..."In the current geopolitical landscape, Venezuela serves as little more than a strategic oil reserve, but it is clear that a sociopath driven by delusions of grandeur and religious delirium will not stop there. We are dealing with a man—or rather, a beast—who is utterly unpredictable and knows no limits.
A perfect and terrifying fusion has emerged: an individual wielding the power of an entire planet, backed by the leader of a people who have believed themselves to be God’s chosen people for centuries. This power bloc, anchored by the USA and Israel, is now consolidating its global dominance through the integration of Artificial Intelligence, tightening its grip on the world. Meanwhile, all other nations are left to navigate the fallout of this reality
Dear all,please allow me to " throw a curveball" into this discussion :)
If one believes that planet is a living organism, then one could consider the link between leaders/wars/planetary changes via clear philosophical eyes, unsmudged by emotions.
"In the cycle of nature there is no such thing as victory or defeat; there is only movement".
– Paulo Coelho
According to tectonic theory and current geological models, " the movement" is quite literal- a new supercontinent is predicted to form in approximately 200 to 250 million years, right?
If the above is correct, then major changes are bound to happen in the world order, and "mother Earth" will bring about the birth of people who can do the jobs required in that context.
Remember, nature is neutral, and doesnt recognise "cruelty", " ruthlessness", " unfairness" etc etc; it operates in realm above human emotions.
"The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent".
-Carl Sagan
What do you think? :)
Jasmine
Dr. wrote: "Dear all,please allow me to " throw a curveball" into this discussion :)
If one believes that planet is a living organism, then one could consider the link between leaders/wars/planetary changes..."
I think we may be guilty of overthinking all this...
The bottom line is - a la Greenland, Venezuela, Ukraine, Iran, Lebanon, Gaza, South Sudan etc. etc. - we are dealing with Man's unbridled lust for wealth and power...and not necessarily in that order.
It starts and ends right there. All else is puffery.
For all Mankind's advances in technology, A.I., medicine, education etc., morally we have not advanced one iota since the Stone Age.
