Joe’s review of Ghosts of Hiroshima > Likes and Comments

I look forward to seeing your thoughts on this one, Joe.🤔

Excellent review Joe. At university one of my profs showed ground footage of the bombing as it occurred. Part of me wonders if it was actually real but this was early 80's so deep fakes and such did not exist. Camera's and video showed people basically melting away. My wife was in that class as well and we occasionally bring up that horror we witnessed. I think it should be mandatory viewing just so it is never ever done again. Ps on that note the 2008 Rambo movie should be mandatory viewing on the atrocities of war. Maybe the mandatory viewing list is just to long sadly. Again great review, I may just pick this up :)

Excellent review, Joe. Seems that mankind has learned nothing so far.

Darla wrote: "I look forward to seeing your thoughts on this one, Joe.🤔"

This was very informative.

Luna wrote: "Excellent review Joe. At university one of my profs showed ground footage of the bombing as it occurred. Part of me wonders if it was actually real but this was early 80's so deep fakes and such di..."

Thank you, Luna. I would have to wonder about the footage. My father was a photographer back then. I don't see how the scenes could be filmed without the camera and film melting. Regardless, it must have been horrific.

Nika wrote: "Excellent review, Joe. Seems that mankind has learned nothing so far."

Thank you, Nika. Compared to circus animals, man is a slow learner at times. :-)

Joe wrote: "Luna wrote: "Excellent review Joe. At university one of my profs showed ground footage of the bombing as it occurred. Part of me wonders if it was actually real but this was early 80's so deep fake..."

So agree with you Joe. How did the equipment survive and how did the operator survive as well when capturing images of people basically disintegrating? Yet clearly it captures what you wrote in your review. I think I will be getting this one. Terrible terrible tragedy. Does it get into the fact that Japan was bombed to send the Russians a message and that message being do not come further west in Europe as that is often speculated too?

Now you’ve really got me curious about how they survived. It’s fascinating that the color of clothing impacted how severely someone was burned. Thanks for yet another informative and interesting review, Joe!

Nancy (Busy feeding 6 rescued baby bunnies) wrote: "Now you’ve really got me curious about how they survived. It’s fascinating that the color of clothing impacted how severely someone was burned. Thanks for yet another informative and interesting re..."

Thanks, Nancy. It was really bizarre how they survived. I guess you could say it had to do with physics. I read it but still didn't quite understand it. The sad thing was that some of those that survived went to look for family members in the hope that they too survived and were exposed to radiation poisoning.

Luna wrote: "Joe wrote: "Luna wrote: "Excellent review Joe. At university one of my profs showed ground footage of the bombing as it occurred. Part of me wonders if it was actually real but this was early 80's ..."

I don't think the fear of Russia invading the west was real yet, at least not officially. Russia was moving vast amounts of troops eastward to take as much territory from the Japanese as possible, as became apparent when they broke their peace pact with Japan. Remember, the reason Japan attacked southward and the Russians moved their Siberian troops to defend Moscow in 1941 because of that deal. Some sources claim that Stalin knew of the bomb, probably because of spies. I have read that it was the Russian blitzkrieg that destroyed the Japanese forces in Manchuria and northern China that had as much to do with Japan's surrender as the bomb. I think it was only later when Stalin was showing his true colors that the government really became wary of him. I have read that MacArthur was all for using the bomb as well as chemical weapons against the Chinese during the Korean War but have no idea of how true that is.

I suspect the US and Japan were deployed by Russia into the theater of warfare, by the controlling puppeteer, who would have been Russia.

It seems as though Russia would have wanted the USA to declare on Germany and thereby may have baited Japan to attack Pearl Harbor and bring the USA into the worldwide battle. I am not well versed in the history of WWII nor the geopolitical vantage during the escalation. It seems plausible.

A great review, thank you for posting your reaction and the caution about weapons so profoundly cruel and catastrophic.

Holly wrote: "I suspect the US and Japan were deployed by Russia into the theater of warfare, by the controlling puppeteer, who would have been Russia.

It seems as though Russia would have wanted the USA to de..."

@Holly: In the 80's when I went to university all non American poli sci books all had proof that the Americans knew Pearl Harbour would happen and let it happen to justify entrance into the war as the U.S. had always been isolationists. It is a work around the U.S. has used before and since in that have something bad happen to your own country to rile everyone up to want to fight. The Disney movie Pearl Harbour cites this as being fact though tbh I have not seen that movie but have heard from many that it is in fact referenced to in the movie. Politics can be ugly but in reality the states needed to enter both world wars.

Interesting review Joe, I loved every word, noticed you have moved up from hand guns to huge atomic bombs.

Stephen wrote: "Interesting review Joe, I loved every word, noticed you have moved up from hand guns to huge atomic bombs."

Thanks, Stephen. The next logical step is back to swords! :-)

Joe wrote: "Darla wrote: "I look forward to seeing your thoughts on this one, Joe.🤔"

This was very informative."

A thoughtful and insightful review, Joe!

Luna wrote: "Holly wrote: "I suspect the US and Japan were deployed by Russia into the theater of warfare, by the controlling puppeteer, who would have been Russia.

It seems as though Russia would have wanted..."

I have heard that as well. Not all Americans wanted to go to war. The Isolationist movement was big in this country. And you had some well known people like Charles Lindbergh who admired the German Luftwaffe and Henry Ford who was antisemitic and did business with Nazi Germany. They didn't want us involved in WWII. The American Communists were isolationists as well until Germany invaded Russia, and then they changed their tune. Regardless of the dirty politics that may or may not have got us involved in WWII, it was a good thing we did. Germany was developing ballistic missiles and were ahead of others in the development of jet aircraft. While it is true that the majority of the German army was facing the Russians, it was US lend lease supplies that kept them in the fight. Few understand the magnitude of this aid that was never repaid. History would have been a lot different if the US had never entered that war.

Joe wrote: "Luna wrote: "Holly wrote: "I suspect the US and Japan were deployed by Russia into the theater of warfare, by the controlling puppeteer, who would have been Russia.

It seems as though Russia woul..."

So true Joe and the lend lease supplies could never really be repaid as the cold war basically started right after and the U.S./USSR went from allies to enemies.

@Luna @Joe

How terrible the fighting was and so many lives were lost! I did not know Political Science textbooks in foreign nations described Pearl Harbor as a false flag event. The German U-Boats and the Luftwaffe are widely known in the USA, yet Russian politics and negotiations are perhaps less well understood thanks to the the historical corporate, cultural, and economic support for Germany, and also to resistance to Russia as a Communist power. Germany during the time was making strides toward Mercantilism; that is, economically protectionist. Hitler wanted all manufacturing to occur inside Germany, and to ward off importing. I suspect his Volkswagen eventually became popular here due to what might have been perceived during those years, as progressive economic policy. The same applies to manufacturers like Saab, Volvo, and other other car makes manufactured in neighboring nations and regions.

Luna, your interesting observation about the Disney Pearl Harbor movie and the textbooks is one which is new to me. Thanks! However, I want to quibble: There is a Japanese animé film titled Spirited Away which features a floating head named Baba Yaga. She appears to be a Russian caricature of an old woman or a witch. Baba Yaga is female monster in Russian folklore. Is her appearance in modern Japanese film a form of political satire?

It seems plausible, too, that funding in the form of lend lease supplies, to Russia and/or Germany may have been lost, swindled, or laundered when the pact between Russia and Japan was ceded or broken. The Cold War began, and perhaps that money went to oligarchs in Russia and Germany, however it was earmarked in its issuance? How could it possibly be repaid after disappearing into such a void of Economic wealth, development, and Bureaucracy? My point being exactly what you said...that following the funds and funding for a contracted military weapon and supply order, would be lost and overlooked in the ensuing political quagmire of the Cold War.

Mao led China slightly later, and Pearl Harbor was on Oahu. Maui sounds like Mao-i. I suspect Japan feels resentment toward the West, and especially Russia, whose leaders may have hoodwinked those rulers in Japan who wanted to enter financial markets in the West. The USA was anti-Communist but did not want Hitler to gain leverage. Therefore, Japan became a scapegoat, which is likely the reason their kamikaze flight operations were so deadly and relentless.

Stalin immediately intercepted true Marxism with pamphlets and propaganda, citing Althusser once he arrived to power. He would not have wanted China to succeed in its Communist movements and he likely manipulated Hirohito and other Japanese diplomats and/or leaders involved in negotiations over the region of Manchuria, island nations, and Japan. He was an efficient military negotiator and strongman.