Sue’s review of Fourth Wing (The Empyrean, #1) > Likes and Comments
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Sue wrote: "Oh my god! It just came to my notice that the only thing u thought original about this book which is the connection between the rider and the Dragon and the dragons wit and conversation was also ta..."
That was inspired by the grandpa of all dragonriding novels, "the dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey great books, if you like dragons and scifi I can recomend them to you, but they are old, so don't judge them by todays standards.
Anyway, lovely review, thank you very much for it, you saved my time, and money.
Aura wrote: "Sue wrote: "Oh my god! It just came to my notice that the only thing u thought original about this book which is the connection between the rider and the Dragon and the dragons wit and conversation..."
Aura wrote: "Sue wrote: "Oh my god! It just came to my notice that the only thing u thought original about this book which is the connection between the rider and the Dragon and the dragons wit and conversation..."
I will definetly check "the dragonriders of Pern"
and Yes I would certainly love some recommendations
absolutely I do not judge based on today's standards. I always check the date of publication of the book. I remeber reading a historical highlander romance book that was published in the 90s
it had a Non-Con scene in it and a lot of mysogeny (in our standards) but still loved it and its one of my 5 star reads
The fourth wing is not a bad book, as i mentioned I enjoyed it. Maybe you'll love it. I just couldnt overlook all these plotlines
Aura wrote: "That was inspired by the grandpa of all dragonriding novels, "the dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey great books, if you like dragons and scifi I can recomend them to you, but they are old, so don't judge them by todays standards..."
THANK YOU. I've been curious about this book but wary about the buzz, seeing so many friends giving it high praise, so I've been checking reviews; so many mentioned their absolute love for the dragons and the idea about dragons not only choosing their riders but their special bond with them: telepathic connection, sharing thoughts and emotions with them, that riders can feel and be influenced by their dragon's urges such as lust. That dragons communicate between them on page with great banter.
I've read this before.
I mean... THIS IS PERN basic concept!
None of the reviews I've read mention McCaffrey and I'm shocked, lol! I see lots of comparisons with Acotar, Divergent, GOT, How to Train Your Dragon, Harry Potter. Alright, I suppose I've aged myself with McCaffrey's reference here?!
Anyway, thank you for mentioning Anne McCaffrey :)
I was going to buy this book because the hype of BookTok
Naira wrote: "I was going to buy this book because the hype of BookTok"
It is a good book
maybe you'll love it
it is so well written
but Personally, I do not think it is fair to give a book more than 1 star for showing unoriginality. not fair for the authentic authors other trying to bring new ideas just for a person to come and take them
I am still going to read book 2
maybe it will be original
because the author has a touch for writing
Ⓐlleskelle - That ranting lady ッ wrote: "Aura wrote: "That was inspired by the grandpa of all dragonriding novels, "the dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey great books, if you like dragons and scifi I can recomend them to you, but the..."
Oh my God! This book just keeps sinking itself! 😄
I haven't known anything about The Dragon Riders of Pern by Anne McCaffrey
So I Google it and they are 24 books about riders bonding with their dragons
I ordered the first six books
I hope I get them all
Hmm that's not entirely fair. In a fantasy world, there are bound to be repeat storyline or things in other books. With this logic I could pick up any fantasy book and compare it to another with ease.
Elizabeth wrote: "Hmm that's not entirely fair. In a fantasy world, there are bound to be repeat storyline or things in other books. With this logic I could pick up any fantasy book and compare it to another with ease."
For sure, because almost every fantasy is influenced by a myth or folklore. and we find many authors that are influenced by others. Stephen King's The Dark Tower series was inspired directly by a Poem and by Tolkien LoTR
but, and this is a big BUT, each of these fantasy authors brought also their own element, their original plot, and their authentic storyline
I am not against snipping and even using same-line quotes
but bring your own for GOD sake
I dare you to find one storyline that is original to this book. JUST ONE
even the chapter introduction is the same as the Fifth Season
Sarah wrote: "I’ll still read it though. I am curious 👀"
Do it
I think you'll love it
sometimes i curse my analytic mind
i am like "shut the fuck up and just enjoy"!
but the fucker can't help it hehehe
The Dragonriders of Pern series was so famous that the author became the first woman to win a Hugo Award for fiction and the first to win a Nebula Award. She (Anne McCaffrey) was actually called the Queen of Dragons for decades because of it. She was THE FIRST to write telepathic dragons and set the standard for all future dragon books that would become popular after her (including Eragon). Even the scene in Fourth Wing where Xaden and Violet are lusting after each other because their mated dragons are having sex was directly copied from Anne McCaffrey’s books. In her books, dragons typically only communicate and talk telepathically to their bonded riders, and when mated dragon pairs engage in sexual activity, their riders will similarly feel lust for one another. Fourth Wing copies it all. The first book is called Dragonflight and was published in 1968, but there’s a ton of books in the series that she continued to write all throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I met her at a fantasy convention a few years ago, and she truly is the Queen! It annoys me that so many people keep praising Fourth Wing as one of a kind and saying that Rebecca Yarros invented this new unique communication system for dragons. No, she did not. Sorry but no. It’s just that so many of her fans are too young to know about the older books she copied from.
Jillian wrote: "The Dragonriders of Pern series was so famous that the author became the first woman to win a Hugo Award for fiction and the first to win a Nebula Award. She (Anne McCaffrey) was actually called th..."
I want to take your words and pin it somewhere
thank you so much
this book just keeps sinking itself more and more
and as you said
it's the young ones who are hyping this book
I ordered the first 6 books of the DragonRiders of Pern
I hope to have them all
Book Fanatic wrote: "I love your reviews. I’ve been seeing them everywhere and they’re so detailed and beneficial. I absolutely agree with you that writers shouldn’t steal but I’m still gonna read it because I have exa..."
you just made me spit my coffee from laughing so hard :)))))
what a great reason to read a book hehehe
but don't do it exam night
you won't be able to put it down
I finished this book in 2 days. I think you will like it
If I am rating based on enjoyment then it is definetly 5 stars
Troupes, they are called Troupes for a reason *laughs.* But I get it, you can only write so many books because you start seeing similar patterns.
Omg double standards much...Your around the place talking law again 🙄 being a massive Neva Altaj supporter how she didn't copy Veronica Lancet books. When there's pages of proof, the irony 😂😂
Christa wrote: "Troupes, they are called Troupes for a reason *laughs.* But I get it, you can only write so many books because you start seeing similar patterns."
no sweetheart
in fiction there are
the theme
the story
the plot
the characters
and then the teeny tiny thing that some of us crave but has absolutely no effect on the story whether they are there or not called tropes
if you don't know the difference that's ok
a little googling goes a long way
Joanne wrote: "Omg double standards much...Your around the place talking law again 🙄 being a massive Neva Altaj supporter how she didn't copy Veronica Lancet books. When there's pages of proof, the irony 😂😂"
I was wondering when some of you petty naggers will show up
It's really pathetic when you post about another issue in a different post especially since I have one already up where you can breath your poison there
anyway, if you know how to read, which I doubt
1- I said I am ok with little copying or sampling as long as the author bring their own (which if after a miracle I would agree with you, Neva did that)
2- pages of proof?????? really where?? I think I also put proof in my post where VL copied others but you are blind as well as illiterate
3- Plagiarism is such a big word that involves legal action. I do not use it like some of you do or wage a war against the author or the book. I said I enjoyed the book and many who commented on my post I encouraged them to read it and form their own opinion
4- go write your own review defending your darling
if you reply or show any disrespect after than I am going to report you
have some dignity girl!
Have some dignity? Says the one who has so much spare time on her hands she shreds other peoples books, yet supports one who plagiarised and got caught. Sorry if I touched a nerve there not my fault you can't handle the truth. Maybe get a different hobby, or I'd like to see you try and write a book since you have so much spare time.
Joanne wrote: "Have some dignity? Says the one who has so much spare time on her hands she shreds other peoples books, yet supports one who plagiarised and got caught. Sorry if I touched a nerve there not my faul..."
"Do you hear something?"
"No. Do you hear something?"
"Maybe the pitter patter of the sound of ignorance"
"Huh! well, ignore it. It will go away"
"are you sure?! it's like a fly buzzing buzzzzzzzzzz. so annoying"
"Well, flies tend to do that but then they go annoy someone else. Just drink your coffee and enjoy your book"
"Yeah, I'll just do that"
You feeling okay love? Think you lost some of your marbles....🤣🤣 calm down karen
"سكتُّ عن السفيه فَظَنَّ أنِّي
عييتُ عن الجواب وما عييتُ
فإنْ كلَّمتُهُ فرَّجتُ عنهُ
وإن خليتُه كمداً يموتُ!"
"وكم من لئيم وَدّ أنِّي شَتَمْتُهُ
وإن كان شتمي فيه صابٌ وعَلْقَمُ
وَلَلكَفُّ عن شَتْم اللئيم تكرُّماً
أَضَرُّ لهُ من شَتْمه حين يُشْتَمُ"
والسفيه يهاجم ويسب بلا سبب:
"يسطو بلا سبب وتل
لك طبيعةُ الكلب العقور"!
إهداء الى جوآن
Majority of literature is not original and is inspired by other works. Many many sci fi and fantasy books are based on Lord of the rings and Dune. Many modern fantasy are based on very old fantasy that mostly nobody is reading anymore. I highly doubt that’s stealing. If it is then every thriller author steals because most of those books are very similar.
booksta_lana wrote: "Majority of literature is not original and is inspired by other works. Many many sci fi and fantasy books are based on Lord of the rings and Dune. Many modern fantasy are based on very old fantasy ..."
I agree with you copletely except on two points
1- don't use words I haven't used. "Stealing" is such a harch word. Copying and Sampling in fiction is accepted
2- I wish ppl would read the review thoroughly to understand what I plainly stated. "I am not against copying or sampling as long as the book brings their own added plot or storyline"
so I will ask you the question I ask everyone
"What did FW bring to the table? show me one original plotline that we would consider this book owned!"
I did not rate it 1 star I stretched to 3 but all of your points are so valid. I marked it down for many of the same reasons. I hate how people aren't seemingly allowed their own differing opinions. We can't all like the same stuff!
Claire wrote: "I did not rate it 1 star I stretched to 3 but all of your points are so valid. I marked it down for many of the same reasons. I hate how people aren't seemingly allowed their own differing opinions..."
and you are abosolutely right
and 3 is very valid good review
I did not hate the book
I like reading it. it gave me such a nostalgic comfort read
but when they promoted this book as this "new high epic fantasy" I was like "well, where? where is the originality, at least give me a part!"
and my integrity could not give it more than 1
There is a series called Dragon School by Sarah K.L. Wilson and when I first saw a TikTok about Fourth Wing I straight up thought that they were talking about Dragon School. I have read the entire Dragon School series and loved it, but I can’t decide if I want to read Fourth Wing and be disappointed if it is just a copy of a series I already loved.
Virginia wrote: "There is a series called Dragon School by Sarah K.L. Wilson and when I first saw a TikTok about Fourth Wing I straight up thought that they were talking about Dragon School. I have read the entire ..."
Oh my God! and her i am thinking that making a disabled FL as the lead was the only redmeeming feature of this book
but no! another copied concept! could this book sink any lower
it is the same. I read the synopsis for Dragon School. A crippled girl joines to become a Dragon Rider and everyone around her believes she'll be dead before they take their first flight!
Yep! right about the same hehehehe
Expet FW addes sexiness to the YA mold
Thank you for pointing it out
Sarah wrote: "I totally agree with everything you said!! Even the ending was talking from kingdom of the wicked which is also a very popular booktok trilogy."
I just want one freeking original thing in this book
just one! is it too much to ask?
is this where books are heading????? a cheap live action disney remake
I’m currently reading this book and I picked up on GoT IMMEDIATELY!
Soooo I enjoyed this book immensely but also my favorite author is Naomi Novik… have you read her books? Her two most famous series are the Scholomance (magical dangerous school) and the Temeraire series (riders bonding with dragons who are bonding less and less with humans and talk to their riders telepathically). 🤔 I totally agree with a lot of your points, but I definitely think their was some NN rip off too! 🥴
Francie wrote: "I’m currently reading this book and I picked up on GoT IMMEDIATELY!"
wait till you reach the end. I am dying to know what you think
also, I don't mind having similarities, but seriously! bring your own! I mean what was the point of making V's hair blond white! sure she has the roots brown (as if pigmentation works like that!) but I mean make it any other different color :0 no need for the Daenerys reference ehehehhe
Cortney wrote: "Soooo I enjoyed this book immensely but also my favorite author is Naomi Novik… have you read her books? Her two most famous series are the Scholomance (magical dangerous school) and the Temeraire ..."
Oh god! another book proving how unoriginal this book is 😂😂
I definetly will check this one out
this book is turning out like if you are working abroad and you crave your mother's favorite dish, so you eat a knockoff in a restaurant to get that nostalgic feeling
Super interesting how people use to refer to panem when panem itself just copies Battle Royale from Kushun Takami.
I see all the books you reference she stole from are actually books she read :) So ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner.
Andi wrote: "I see all the books you reference she stole from are actually books she read :) So ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner."
well of course hehehe
Are you want telling me that the writer came up with the "kingdom protected by wards from zombie-like creatures who have the abiltiy to raise the dead and make blue fire dragons and only die by special metal" ALL BY HERSELF "gasps" without watching or reading a single episode/book of Game of thrones!!????😂😂😂😂
whatso.eve.r wrote: "Super interesting how people use to refer to panem when panem itself just copies Battle Royale from Kushun Takami."
Everyone copies someone eventually, but for GOD'S sake bring a little to the table!! This book brought nothing
Yes! I'm 20% in but the first section is identical to Divergent, even reproducing things it got badly wrong like the incredibly precise knife-throwing. It is uncomfortable how closely copied it is.
Laura wrote: "Yes! I'm 20% in but the first section is identical to Divergent, even reproducing things it got badly wrong like the incredibly precise knife-throwing. It is uncomfortable how closely copied it is."
This book is like someone who wants to have an original Louise Vuitton bag but doesn't have the money so they buy a knockoff and pretend it's the original one
Thanks for mentioning me in your review, lovely. 😊
Seems like experience with this book was as bad as mine. 😂 those other books you mentioned did it better lol don’t understand the purpose of this one. 🤷🏾♀️
Warda wrote: "Thanks for mentioning me in your review, lovely. 😊
Seems like experience with this book was as bad as mine. 😂 those other books you mentioned did it better lol don’t understand the purpose of this..."
You had to be mentioned
I was planning on writing a long ass review on both the characters/writing and the copycat issue
but then read yours and it was so much better and said everything
as to the purpose of this book? they wanted to give some people who do not want to read ALL these books an abridged version 😂
and as a strategy it worked
but in a way, i am thankful for this book, because it showed me who I can trust their reviews and taste 😊
Hahaha I love this review. This book is every single YA novel I’ve read mushed into one… every single thing about it was unoriginal. I think you hit the nail on the head with the specific examples here. Not to mention the “cliffhanger ending”…. I read it and rolled my eyes 🙄. I genuinely wish I could have enjoyed this book the way other people did but I don’t understand how there are so many 5 star reviews?????
Juliana wrote: "Hahaha I love this review. This book is every single YA novel I’ve read mushed into one… every single thing about it was unoriginal. I think you hit the nail on the head with the specific examples ..."
You got it with the YA mushed together 😂
This is like "Left overnight" where you take out all the frozen goodies and pretend you have a feast
as to the 5-star reviews, The answer is easy. Most of those have not either read a fantasy or read the original ones.
This book knew its audience
the marketing was on point
Bibi wrote: "I haven’t read a lot of books about dragons but the one that I just happened to read a few days ago (Eon by Alison Goodman) also had a disabled and disadvantaged female lead who was chosen by a lon..."
At this point, I won't be even an ounce surprised if it turned out this book was written by AI by the amount of snip and cut done
Thank you for adding another example
I'll definitely check the books by Alison Goodman
Sue wrote: "Bibi wrote: "I haven’t read a lot of books about dragons but the one that I just happened to read a few days ago (Eon by Alison Goodman) also had a disabled and disadvantaged female lead who was ch..."
I swear I am not a hateful bitch
I love reading and books
I want with all my heart to find ONE
just God forsaken ONE thing original to this books
to say 'you know what, I was wrong, and it is a good book"
thank you for your contribution to how pathetic this book is
I appreciate that you spent the time to show where Yarros stole ideas from. It's a lot of work to put those comparisons together.
Amutrion wrote: "Damn, Yarros is the new Maas💀"
If on the topic of hyping the wrong book then yes
But SJM brought many new interesting plots and stories and character arcs even when she is inspired by folklore
She put her twist and made the myth her own
what did Yarros do?????
Ridel wrote: "I appreciate that you spent the time to show where Yarros stole ideas from. It's a lot of work to put those comparisons together."
Thank you so much
but let's not call it stealing (maybe she got the ok from the other writers?? I doubt it)
so let's just say "lazy writing"
You missed one. Love interest so wounded he can’t commit just have epic sex: Ugly Love Colleen Hoover.
I did think while reading this book that it was awfully similar to Eragon and reminiscent of the Game of Thrones' White Walkers but with your review putting everything together? Oh, man, there's nothing original about this story, is there? Even the two dragons thing is a cheap cliche, even if it's not directly taken from another piece of media.
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Sue wrote: "Oh my god! It just came to my notice that the only thing u thought original about this book which is the connection between the rider and the Dragon and the dragons wit and conversation was also ta..."That was inspired by the grandpa of all dragonriding novels, "the dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey great books, if you like dragons and scifi I can recomend them to you, but they are old, so don't judge them by todays standards.
Anyway, lovely review, thank you very much for it, you saved my time, and money.
Aura wrote: "Sue wrote: "Oh my god! It just came to my notice that the only thing u thought original about this book which is the connection between the rider and the Dragon and the dragons wit and conversation..."Aura wrote: "Sue wrote: "Oh my god! It just came to my notice that the only thing u thought original about this book which is the connection between the rider and the Dragon and the dragons wit and conversation..."
I will definetly check "the dragonriders of Pern"
and Yes I would certainly love some recommendations
absolutely I do not judge based on today's standards. I always check the date of publication of the book. I remeber reading a historical highlander romance book that was published in the 90s
it had a Non-Con scene in it and a lot of mysogeny (in our standards) but still loved it and its one of my 5 star reads
The fourth wing is not a bad book, as i mentioned I enjoyed it. Maybe you'll love it. I just couldnt overlook all these plotlines
Aura wrote: "That was inspired by the grandpa of all dragonriding novels, "the dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey great books, if you like dragons and scifi I can recomend them to you, but they are old, so don't judge them by todays standards..."THANK YOU. I've been curious about this book but wary about the buzz, seeing so many friends giving it high praise, so I've been checking reviews; so many mentioned their absolute love for the dragons and the idea about dragons not only choosing their riders but their special bond with them: telepathic connection, sharing thoughts and emotions with them, that riders can feel and be influenced by their dragon's urges such as lust. That dragons communicate between them on page with great banter.
I've read this before.
I mean... THIS IS PERN basic concept!
None of the reviews I've read mention McCaffrey and I'm shocked, lol! I see lots of comparisons with Acotar, Divergent, GOT, How to Train Your Dragon, Harry Potter. Alright, I suppose I've aged myself with McCaffrey's reference here?!
Anyway, thank you for mentioning Anne McCaffrey :)
I was going to buy this book because the hype of BookTok
Naira wrote: "I was going to buy this book because the hype of BookTok"It is a good book
maybe you'll love it
it is so well written
but Personally, I do not think it is fair to give a book more than 1 star for showing unoriginality. not fair for the authentic authors other trying to bring new ideas just for a person to come and take them
I am still going to read book 2
maybe it will be original
because the author has a touch for writing
Ⓐlleskelle - That ranting lady ッ wrote: "Aura wrote: "That was inspired by the grandpa of all dragonriding novels, "the dragonriders of Pern" by Anne McCaffrey great books, if you like dragons and scifi I can recomend them to you, but the..."Oh my God! This book just keeps sinking itself! 😄
I haven't known anything about The Dragon Riders of Pern by Anne McCaffrey
So I Google it and they are 24 books about riders bonding with their dragons
I ordered the first six books
I hope I get them all
Hmm that's not entirely fair. In a fantasy world, there are bound to be repeat storyline or things in other books. With this logic I could pick up any fantasy book and compare it to another with ease.
Elizabeth wrote: "Hmm that's not entirely fair. In a fantasy world, there are bound to be repeat storyline or things in other books. With this logic I could pick up any fantasy book and compare it to another with ease."For sure, because almost every fantasy is influenced by a myth or folklore. and we find many authors that are influenced by others. Stephen King's The Dark Tower series was inspired directly by a Poem and by Tolkien LoTR
but, and this is a big BUT, each of these fantasy authors brought also their own element, their original plot, and their authentic storyline
I am not against snipping and even using same-line quotes
but bring your own for GOD sake
I dare you to find one storyline that is original to this book. JUST ONE
even the chapter introduction is the same as the Fifth Season
Sarah wrote: "I’ll still read it though. I am curious 👀"Do it
I think you'll love it
sometimes i curse my analytic mind
i am like "shut the fuck up and just enjoy"!
but the fucker can't help it hehehe
The Dragonriders of Pern series was so famous that the author became the first woman to win a Hugo Award for fiction and the first to win a Nebula Award. She (Anne McCaffrey) was actually called the Queen of Dragons for decades because of it. She was THE FIRST to write telepathic dragons and set the standard for all future dragon books that would become popular after her (including Eragon). Even the scene in Fourth Wing where Xaden and Violet are lusting after each other because their mated dragons are having sex was directly copied from Anne McCaffrey’s books. In her books, dragons typically only communicate and talk telepathically to their bonded riders, and when mated dragon pairs engage in sexual activity, their riders will similarly feel lust for one another. Fourth Wing copies it all. The first book is called Dragonflight and was published in 1968, but there’s a ton of books in the series that she continued to write all throughout the 70s, 80s, and 90s. I met her at a fantasy convention a few years ago, and she truly is the Queen! It annoys me that so many people keep praising Fourth Wing as one of a kind and saying that Rebecca Yarros invented this new unique communication system for dragons. No, she did not. Sorry but no. It’s just that so many of her fans are too young to know about the older books she copied from.
Jillian wrote: "The Dragonriders of Pern series was so famous that the author became the first woman to win a Hugo Award for fiction and the first to win a Nebula Award. She (Anne McCaffrey) was actually called th..."I want to take your words and pin it somewhere
thank you so much
this book just keeps sinking itself more and more
and as you said
it's the young ones who are hyping this book
I ordered the first 6 books of the DragonRiders of Pern
I hope to have them all
Book Fanatic wrote: "I love your reviews. I’ve been seeing them everywhere and they’re so detailed and beneficial. I absolutely agree with you that writers shouldn’t steal but I’m still gonna read it because I have exa..."you just made me spit my coffee from laughing so hard :)))))
what a great reason to read a book hehehe
but don't do it exam night
you won't be able to put it down
I finished this book in 2 days. I think you will like it
If I am rating based on enjoyment then it is definetly 5 stars
Troupes, they are called Troupes for a reason *laughs.* But I get it, you can only write so many books because you start seeing similar patterns.
Omg double standards much...Your around the place talking law again 🙄 being a massive Neva Altaj supporter how she didn't copy Veronica Lancet books. When there's pages of proof, the irony 😂😂
Christa wrote: "Troupes, they are called Troupes for a reason *laughs.* But I get it, you can only write so many books because you start seeing similar patterns."no sweetheart
in fiction there are
the theme
the story
the plot
the characters
and then the teeny tiny thing that some of us crave but has absolutely no effect on the story whether they are there or not called tropes
if you don't know the difference that's ok
a little googling goes a long way
Joanne wrote: "Omg double standards much...Your around the place talking law again 🙄 being a massive Neva Altaj supporter how she didn't copy Veronica Lancet books. When there's pages of proof, the irony 😂😂"I was wondering when some of you petty naggers will show up
It's really pathetic when you post about another issue in a different post especially since I have one already up where you can breath your poison there
anyway, if you know how to read, which I doubt
1- I said I am ok with little copying or sampling as long as the author bring their own (which if after a miracle I would agree with you, Neva did that)
2- pages of proof?????? really where?? I think I also put proof in my post where VL copied others but you are blind as well as illiterate
3- Plagiarism is such a big word that involves legal action. I do not use it like some of you do or wage a war against the author or the book. I said I enjoyed the book and many who commented on my post I encouraged them to read it and form their own opinion
4- go write your own review defending your darling
if you reply or show any disrespect after than I am going to report you
have some dignity girl!
Have some dignity? Says the one who has so much spare time on her hands she shreds other peoples books, yet supports one who plagiarised and got caught. Sorry if I touched a nerve there not my fault you can't handle the truth. Maybe get a different hobby, or I'd like to see you try and write a book since you have so much spare time.
Joanne wrote: "Have some dignity? Says the one who has so much spare time on her hands she shreds other peoples books, yet supports one who plagiarised and got caught. Sorry if I touched a nerve there not my faul...""Do you hear something?"
"No. Do you hear something?"
"Maybe the pitter patter of the sound of ignorance"
"Huh! well, ignore it. It will go away"
"are you sure?! it's like a fly buzzing buzzzzzzzzzz. so annoying"
"Well, flies tend to do that but then they go annoy someone else. Just drink your coffee and enjoy your book"
"Yeah, I'll just do that"
You feeling okay love? Think you lost some of your marbles....🤣🤣 calm down karen
"سكتُّ عن السفيه فَظَنَّ أنِّيعييتُ عن الجواب وما عييتُ
فإنْ كلَّمتُهُ فرَّجتُ عنهُ
وإن خليتُه كمداً يموتُ!"
"وكم من لئيم وَدّ أنِّي شَتَمْتُهُ
وإن كان شتمي فيه صابٌ وعَلْقَمُ
وَلَلكَفُّ عن شَتْم اللئيم تكرُّماً
أَضَرُّ لهُ من شَتْمه حين يُشْتَمُ"
والسفيه يهاجم ويسب بلا سبب:
"يسطو بلا سبب وتل
لك طبيعةُ الكلب العقور"!
إهداء الى جوآن
Majority of literature is not original and is inspired by other works. Many many sci fi and fantasy books are based on Lord of the rings and Dune. Many modern fantasy are based on very old fantasy that mostly nobody is reading anymore. I highly doubt that’s stealing. If it is then every thriller author steals because most of those books are very similar.
booksta_lana wrote: "Majority of literature is not original and is inspired by other works. Many many sci fi and fantasy books are based on Lord of the rings and Dune. Many modern fantasy are based on very old fantasy ..."I agree with you copletely except on two points
1- don't use words I haven't used. "Stealing" is such a harch word. Copying and Sampling in fiction is accepted
2- I wish ppl would read the review thoroughly to understand what I plainly stated. "I am not against copying or sampling as long as the book brings their own added plot or storyline"
so I will ask you the question I ask everyone
"What did FW bring to the table? show me one original plotline that we would consider this book owned!"
I did not rate it 1 star I stretched to 3 but all of your points are so valid. I marked it down for many of the same reasons. I hate how people aren't seemingly allowed their own differing opinions. We can't all like the same stuff!
Claire wrote: "I did not rate it 1 star I stretched to 3 but all of your points are so valid. I marked it down for many of the same reasons. I hate how people aren't seemingly allowed their own differing opinions..."and you are abosolutely right
and 3 is very valid good review
I did not hate the book
I like reading it. it gave me such a nostalgic comfort read
but when they promoted this book as this "new high epic fantasy" I was like "well, where? where is the originality, at least give me a part!"
and my integrity could not give it more than 1
There is a series called Dragon School by Sarah K.L. Wilson and when I first saw a TikTok about Fourth Wing I straight up thought that they were talking about Dragon School. I have read the entire Dragon School series and loved it, but I can’t decide if I want to read Fourth Wing and be disappointed if it is just a copy of a series I already loved.
Virginia wrote: "There is a series called Dragon School by Sarah K.L. Wilson and when I first saw a TikTok about Fourth Wing I straight up thought that they were talking about Dragon School. I have read the entire ..."Oh my God! and her i am thinking that making a disabled FL as the lead was the only redmeeming feature of this book
but no! another copied concept! could this book sink any lower
it is the same. I read the synopsis for Dragon School. A crippled girl joines to become a Dragon Rider and everyone around her believes she'll be dead before they take their first flight!
Yep! right about the same hehehehe
Expet FW addes sexiness to the YA mold
Thank you for pointing it out
Sarah wrote: "I totally agree with everything you said!! Even the ending was talking from kingdom of the wicked which is also a very popular booktok trilogy."I just want one freeking original thing in this book
just one! is it too much to ask?
is this where books are heading????? a cheap live action disney remake
I’m currently reading this book and I picked up on GoT IMMEDIATELY!
Soooo I enjoyed this book immensely but also my favorite author is Naomi Novik… have you read her books? Her two most famous series are the Scholomance (magical dangerous school) and the Temeraire series (riders bonding with dragons who are bonding less and less with humans and talk to their riders telepathically). 🤔 I totally agree with a lot of your points, but I definitely think their was some NN rip off too! 🥴
Francie wrote: "I’m currently reading this book and I picked up on GoT IMMEDIATELY!"wait till you reach the end. I am dying to know what you think
also, I don't mind having similarities, but seriously! bring your own! I mean what was the point of making V's hair blond white! sure she has the roots brown (as if pigmentation works like that!) but I mean make it any other different color :0 no need for the Daenerys reference ehehehhe
Cortney wrote: "Soooo I enjoyed this book immensely but also my favorite author is Naomi Novik… have you read her books? Her two most famous series are the Scholomance (magical dangerous school) and the Temeraire ..."Oh god! another book proving how unoriginal this book is 😂😂
I definetly will check this one out
this book is turning out like if you are working abroad and you crave your mother's favorite dish, so you eat a knockoff in a restaurant to get that nostalgic feeling
Super interesting how people use to refer to panem when panem itself just copies Battle Royale from Kushun Takami.
I see all the books you reference she stole from are actually books she read :) So ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner.
Andi wrote: "I see all the books you reference she stole from are actually books she read :) So ding ding ding, winner winner chicken dinner."well of course hehehe
Are you want telling me that the writer came up with the "kingdom protected by wards from zombie-like creatures who have the abiltiy to raise the dead and make blue fire dragons and only die by special metal" ALL BY HERSELF "gasps" without watching or reading a single episode/book of Game of thrones!!????😂😂😂😂
whatso.eve.r wrote: "Super interesting how people use to refer to panem when panem itself just copies Battle Royale from Kushun Takami."Everyone copies someone eventually, but for GOD'S sake bring a little to the table!! This book brought nothing
Yes! I'm 20% in but the first section is identical to Divergent, even reproducing things it got badly wrong like the incredibly precise knife-throwing. It is uncomfortable how closely copied it is.
Laura wrote: "Yes! I'm 20% in but the first section is identical to Divergent, even reproducing things it got badly wrong like the incredibly precise knife-throwing. It is uncomfortable how closely copied it is."This book is like someone who wants to have an original Louise Vuitton bag but doesn't have the money so they buy a knockoff and pretend it's the original one
Thanks for mentioning me in your review, lovely. 😊Seems like experience with this book was as bad as mine. 😂 those other books you mentioned did it better lol don’t understand the purpose of this one. 🤷🏾♀️
Warda wrote: "Thanks for mentioning me in your review, lovely. 😊Seems like experience with this book was as bad as mine. 😂 those other books you mentioned did it better lol don’t understand the purpose of this..."
You had to be mentioned
I was planning on writing a long ass review on both the characters/writing and the copycat issue
but then read yours and it was so much better and said everything
as to the purpose of this book? they wanted to give some people who do not want to read ALL these books an abridged version 😂
and as a strategy it worked
but in a way, i am thankful for this book, because it showed me who I can trust their reviews and taste 😊
Hahaha I love this review. This book is every single YA novel I’ve read mushed into one… every single thing about it was unoriginal. I think you hit the nail on the head with the specific examples here. Not to mention the “cliffhanger ending”…. I read it and rolled my eyes 🙄. I genuinely wish I could have enjoyed this book the way other people did but I don’t understand how there are so many 5 star reviews?????
Juliana wrote: "Hahaha I love this review. This book is every single YA novel I’ve read mushed into one… every single thing about it was unoriginal. I think you hit the nail on the head with the specific examples ..."You got it with the YA mushed together 😂
This is like "Left overnight" where you take out all the frozen goodies and pretend you have a feast
as to the 5-star reviews, The answer is easy. Most of those have not either read a fantasy or read the original ones.
This book knew its audience
the marketing was on point
Bibi wrote: "I haven’t read a lot of books about dragons but the one that I just happened to read a few days ago (Eon by Alison Goodman) also had a disabled and disadvantaged female lead who was chosen by a lon..."At this point, I won't be even an ounce surprised if it turned out this book was written by AI by the amount of snip and cut done
Thank you for adding another example
I'll definitely check the books by Alison Goodman
Sue wrote: "Bibi wrote: "I haven’t read a lot of books about dragons but the one that I just happened to read a few days ago (Eon by Alison Goodman) also had a disabled and disadvantaged female lead who was ch..."I swear I am not a hateful bitch
I love reading and books
I want with all my heart to find ONE
just God forsaken ONE thing original to this books
to say 'you know what, I was wrong, and it is a good book"
thank you for your contribution to how pathetic this book is
I appreciate that you spent the time to show where Yarros stole ideas from. It's a lot of work to put those comparisons together.
Amutrion wrote: "Damn, Yarros is the new Maas💀"If on the topic of hyping the wrong book then yes
But SJM brought many new interesting plots and stories and character arcs even when she is inspired by folklore
She put her twist and made the myth her own
what did Yarros do?????
Ridel wrote: "I appreciate that you spent the time to show where Yarros stole ideas from. It's a lot of work to put those comparisons together."Thank you so much
but let's not call it stealing (maybe she got the ok from the other writers?? I doubt it)
so let's just say "lazy writing"
You missed one. Love interest so wounded he can’t commit just have epic sex: Ugly Love Colleen Hoover.
I did think while reading this book that it was awfully similar to Eragon and reminiscent of the Game of Thrones' White Walkers but with your review putting everything together? Oh, man, there's nothing original about this story, is there? Even the two dragons thing is a cheap cliche, even if it's not directly taken from another piece of media.
Was anything original in this book?😅
I should lower my rating to one