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message 1: by Manny (new)

Manny So what should I put on my sign?

Deuteronomy 32:35


message 2: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Manny wrote: "So what should I put on my sign?

Deuteronomy 32:35"


We can only hope!


message 3: by Tras (new)

Tras Is there anything in the bible that says: Die you orange fucker, die! And take your worthless bigoted horde with you!

May need to paraphrase :)


message 4: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Tras wrote: "Is there anything in the bible that says: Die you orange fucker, die! And take your worthless bigoted horde with you!
May need to paraphrase :)"


Paraphrase - LOL.

I'm in favour of life, and I certainly wouldn't kill, but if he slipped from existence, my only tears would be of relief.


message 5: by Tras (new)

Tras Cecily wrote: "I'm in favour of life, and I certainly wouldn't kill, but if he slipped from existence, my only tears would be of relief. "

Oh me too. I'm not advocating that he be killed, just willing on the inevitable heart failure that must be imminent in an obese fast-food-eating and hatred-spewing monster :)


message 6: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Manny wrote: "So what should I put on my sign?
Deuteronomy 32:35"


If I use that, I'll have to include the quote itself, not just the reference. I doubt Trump would know it otherise. (And to be fair, I had to look it up, though when I did, it was familiar.)


message 7: by Cecily (last edited Jun 07, 2018 02:18PM) (new)

Cecily Tras wrote: "I'm not advocating that he be killed, just willing on the inevitable heart failure that must be imminent in an obese fast-food-eating and hatred-spewing monster"

I assumed as much. The trouble is, Pence is no better; worse in some ways. He has real hatred for LGBTQ people, amonst others, whereas Trump doesnt seem to care much either way.

The only good things about Pence are that he's less likely to start a war by temper tantrum or mistake, and that because he has a firm ideology, you know what he will try to do. Trump changes his mind on a whim, according to what seems most personally advantageous in the moment. His unpredictability is a risk in itself.


message 8: by Fernando (new)

Fernando I'm an agnostic and find your analysis, if I may say it is, rather insightful and quite interesting.


message 9: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Fernando wrote: "I'm an agnostic and find your analysis, if I may say it is, rather insightful and quite interesting."

Thank you, Fernando. I can't claim much, if any of it is original, but I'm glad to have expressed myself clearly and in a thought-provoking way.


message 10: by Richard (new)

Richard Derus "Call Animal Control There's An Orange Shitgibbon Loose"


message 11: by Cecily (last edited Jun 07, 2018 02:41PM) (new)

Cecily Richard wrote: ""Call Animal Control There's An Orange Shitgibbon Loose""

Would he still get Secret Service protection in a zoo?


message 12: by Tras (new)

Tras Cecily wrote: "I assumed as much. The trouble is, Pence is no better; worse in some ways. He has real hatred for LGBTQ people, amonst others, whereas Trump doesnt seem to care much either way. "

Let's be honest, there are no positives in this situation. Worst case scenario, the US has just under 3 years of a narcissistic megalomaniac at the reins. If Trump dies, Pence, the epitome of religious bigotry, assumes control and makes life incredibly difficult for anyone that doesn't adhere to his beliefs.

The only way out of this mess is for enormous Democratic wins to happen from hereon, to minimise what the Repubs are able to do. However, I have such little faith in the Dems right now, since many of them seem to be more than happy to vote along Republican lines when it suits. As evidenced with the recent removal of the restrictions on the increasingly 'grabby' financial sector.

I'm just really glad I live in Canada :)


message 13: by Richard (new)

Richard Derus Cecily wrote: "Richard wrote: ""Call Animal Control There's An Orange Shitgibbon Loose""

Would he still get Secret Service protection in a zoo?"


No. *locates tranq gun, passport, and potassium cyanide*


message 14: by Cecily (last edited Jun 07, 2018 03:13PM) (new)

Cecily Tras wrote: "I'm just really glad I live in Canada :) "

Ah yes. You're a descendant of the dodgy lot who burnt down the White House in 1814. Maybe that's why Brahms wrote an overture to commemorate the year.
;)


message 15: by Tras (new)

Tras Cecily wrote: "Ah yes. You're a descendant of the dodgy lot who burnt down the White House in 1812. Maybe that's why Brahms wrote a symphony to commemorate..."

haha leaving Trump's idiocy aside, I am actually a Brit. As are you, I believe? So yes, "our" people did burn the White House in 1814. Good times ;)


message 16: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Yes, I'm a Brit. I've visited Canada (and the US, several times), but never lived overseas. And I've never torched or looted a building. Yet!


message 17: by BlackOxford (new)

BlackOxford I’ll be on the barricades with you Cecily.


message 18: by Cecily (new)

Cecily BlackOxford wrote: "I’ll be on the barricades with you Cecily."

Good to know. Will you wave a sign, and if so, have you decided what it will say?


message 19: by Tras (new)

Tras Cecily wrote: " I've never torched or looted a building. Yet!"

Me neither, but there's a first time for everything, right? :D


message 20: by BlackOxford (new)

BlackOxford Cecily wrote: "BlackOxford wrote: "I’ll be on the barricades with you Cecily."

Good to know. Will you wave a sign, and if so, have you decided what it will say?"


I haven’t given it a thought. My bad. Suggestions welcome.


message 21: by Jaline (new)

Jaline For your sign: "There's No Faith Like No Faith" -- maybe no-one will know what it means, but it will definitely attract an eye or two. 😉


message 22: by BlackOxford (new)

BlackOxford Jaline wrote: "For your sign: "There's No Faith Like No Faith" -- maybe no-one will know what it means, but it will definitely attract an eye or two. 😉"

Love it. An immediate contender.


message 23: by Campbell (new)

Campbell I can think of nothing more quintessentially British than: "Hugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb Petition For Their Town to be Renamed"


message 24: by Jeanne (new)

Jeanne A spiritual biography? For Trump? Is there anything between the two covers?

I wish I could watch him from across an ocean. Sigh.


message 25: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer Ozawa The only thing this piece of crap worships is money.


message 26: by withdrawn (new)

withdrawn As a dyed in the wool Canadian, I must point out that it was a lot of rambunctious Brits who sailed out of England with the sole purpose of burning down the White House and who succeeded admirably.

I would like add that, in recent days, I have had thoughts of re-enacting this 1814 event. Americans do have a great many re-enactment societies, perhaps I could convince some of them to join me in such an act. But then again, I’m afraid that some innocent bystanders would probably be shot by overzealous NRA members. I’ll abandon the idea for now.

That man will be visiting Canada for the G6 + 1 (formerly G7) meeting in Halifax this week. Wish were there to express myself.

Thanks for the inspirational review Cecily.


message 27: by Michael (new)

Michael Perkins Let's be clear. The trouble started when the Puritans came over from England with the idea of starting a theocracy, a "city upon a hill." They were Calvinists who believed in the "elect" and non-elect. It evolved into an early form of prosperity Gospel, given that they were always looking for signs that they were of the elect. If you prospered, that was a sign, if you were poor, it meant you were cursed. They sowed the seeds of that stuff here, with us to this day.

You also sent us the apocalypse fundamentalists, started by the Plymouth Brethren in late 19th century England.

Then you go all secular in the 20th century and leave us with this mess.

You Brits have a lot to answer for. ;-)


message 28: by Fernando (new)

Fernando I am just a human and find Michael's comment a bit harsh. Take it easy. May peace and happiness be with you


message 29: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Tras wrote: "Me neither, but there's a first time for everything, right? :D"

I suppose so.
"Try everything once, except Morris dancing and incest", as the saying goes.


message 30: by Cecily (new)

Cecily BlackOxford wrote: "I haven’t given it a thought. My bad. Suggestions welcome."

Maybe one suggested here will take your fancy.


message 31: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Jaline wrote: "For your sign: "There's No Faith Like No Faith" ..."

Very good. I really like that. Thanks.


message 32: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Campbell wrote: "I can think of nothing more quintessentially British than: "Hugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb Petition For Their Town to be Renamed""

LOL. Impenetrable to non-Brits, but I love it.


message 33: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Jeanne wrote: "A spiritual biography? For Trump? Is there anything between the two covers?
I wish I could watch him from across an ocean. Sigh."


It looks as if there are words between the covers. You can read some of them on Amazon.com (but not Amazon.co.uk).

If you like the minimalist approach to analysing Trump, have a look at Why Trump Deserves Trust, Respect and Admiration, or Everything You Need to Know to Write a Work of Satire in Donald Trump's America - which has even been "translated" into German and Czech. ;)


message 34: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Jennifer wrote: "The only thing this piece of crap worships is money."

And himself. Which reminds me of an image to add to the review.... Thanks.


message 35: by Cecily (new)

Cecily RK-ique wrote: "As a dyed in the wool Canadian, I must point out that it was a lot of rambunctious Brits who sailed out of England with the sole purpose of burning down the White House and who succeeded admirably...."

I don't think any of my ancestors were involved, so I can claim or bear no credit or blame, even indirectly.

RK-ique wrote: "I have had thoughts of re-enacting this 1814 event... But then again, I’m afraid that some innocent bystanders would probably be shot by overzealous NRA members....."

Yes, second amendment rights limit more fundamental ones.

RK-ique wrote: "You also sent us the apocalypse fundamentalists, started by the Plymouth Brethren in late 19th century England.
Then you go all secular in the 20th century and leave us with this mess.
You Brits have a lot to answer for."


LOL. Sorry about that. Maybe it was like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: we exported those we didn't want.

More seriously, yes, we went secular, but recent events in the US (and elsewhere) show the tide of inclusivity, equality, and acceptance can be turned back. We often follow US cultural trends, so I fear for the UK.


message 36: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Fernando wrote: "I am just a human and find Michael's comment a bit harsh. Take it easy. May peace and happiness be with you"

I don't think it was intended that way. I didn't take it so. But thanks for your concern, and the polite way you expressed it (not something one can take for granted on a controversial topic).


message 37: by Mark (last edited Jun 08, 2018 12:11AM) (new)

Mark Hebwood I am actually unsure whether you are sarcastic or actually considering reading this, Cecily.... If the latter, perhaps it's better to try some reviews first... Like this one:
https://www.weeklystandard.com/erick-...

But it only takes 44 seconds to find out exactly what Trump's spirituality is like. Check out this video - you only need time index 7.26-8.10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwir5...


message 38: by Cecily (last edited Jun 08, 2018 12:16AM) (new)

Cecily Mark Hebwood wrote: "I am actually unsure whether you are sarcastic or actually considering reading this, Cecily...."

Nor am I.

Mark Hebwood wrote: "But it only takes 44 seconds to find out exactly what Trump's spirituality is like...."

Bleugh! He manages to make it all about him and his success. But an interview with one of the authors of this book deserves its place in the review itself. Thanks.


message 39: by Lisa (new)

Lisa You speak to my heart, Cecily! Thank you for sharing your fears and thoughts, which are an exact mirror of my own experience. I have actually considered being in London to protest against inhuman personality cult gone global threat as well. Mainly because it feels wrong to KNOW that evil narcissism is in power and not do anything. Because of current politics, I have had to re-evaluate my own ethical guidelines over and over - and the pain does not go away, it is NOT normal.


message 40: by Mark (new)

Mark Hebwood Ha ha - I loved that scene in the video when I first saw it.

I find this short sequence quite telling. Basically, the psychology works like this: He wanted to say something like "is God's creation not astounding, all of this could not be here by accident bla bla bla" but then he got sidetracked because he was thinking about himself as he was saying it. Then, finally he caught himself (that is quite rare actually, normally he rambles on and then simply stops) and offered a feeble nod to his bigoted evangelical base, saying "God is the ultimate". And that's all there is to Trump's 'spirituality'.


message 41: by Cecily (last edited Jun 08, 2018 12:58AM) (new)

Cecily Lisa wrote: "You speak to my heart, Cecily! Thank you for sharing your fears and thoughts... I have actually considered being in London to protest against inhuman personality cult gone global threat..."

I'm confident there will be many people on the streets. Of course, he'll either kid himself we're not there, or that we're supporters.

Lisa wrote: "the pain does not go away, it is NOT normal."

"Not normal" has long been popularised as a phrase to describe Trump's regime by Amy Siskind, who keeps The List: A Week-by-Week Reckoning of Trump’s First Year.

If you don't already follow her online:
@Amy_Siskind
or
theweeklylist.org
and on Facebook and elsewhere.


message 42: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Mark Hebwood wrote: "...He wanted to say something like "is God's creation not astounding, all of this could not be here by accident bla bla bla" but then he got sidetracked because he was thinking about himself... Then, finally he caught himself... and offered a feeble nod to his bigoted evangelical base, saying "God is the ultimate"...."

Nicely summarised and analysed.


message 43: by Liz (new)

Liz When I saw the title, my first thought was that it must be a satire.


message 44: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Liz wrote: "When I saw the title, my first thought was that it must be a satire."

Sadly not.


message 45: by Matt (new)

Matt Liz wrote: "When I saw the title, my first thought was that it must be a satire."

If you're interested in works of satire in Donald Trump's America you should check out Manny's book Everything You Need to Know to Write a Work of Satire in Donald Trump's America. It contains everything you need to know. And it's free!
(disclaimer: I made the translation into German)


message 46: by Mark (new)

Mark Hebwood Of course, he'll ... [think] that we're supporters.

Yes! :-) He will actually do that. My guess is he'll get a welcome here he won't forget. I have a mental image of the Mall lined end to end with blokes mooning him - something you just could not get anywhere else in the world. Although his reception in Hawaii was hilarious, when people greeted him with posters saying "welcome to Kenya" :-) :-)...

Plus it's personal. How dare that clown insult our mayor and say he doesn't stand up to terrorism. So we'll all be out in the street. Well. Except me. I'll be in Canada on holiday. But my thoughts will be with you...


message 47: by Tras (new)

Tras Cecily wrote: ""Try everything once, except Morris dancing and incest", as the saying goes."

That sounds like solid advice, but I would also add anything to do with jazz ;)


message 48: by Alfred (new)

Alfred Haplo So what should I put on my sign?"

Ooh, hmm... I shall have to get back on that, but until then, I want to say how much I, we here, appreciate your show of support from across the pond.


message 49: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Mark Hebwood wrote: "I have a mental image of the Mall lined end to end with blokes mooning him - something you just could not get anywhere else in the world..."

LOL. Though if so, I'm less keen on going myself!

Mark Hebwood wrote: "How dare that clown insult our mayor and say he doesn't stand up to terrorism...."

If blond Boris were still mayor, but had the same policies, statements, and crime stats as Muslim Khan, Trump would make no criticism.

Mark Hebwood wrote: "I'll be in Canada on holiday. But my thoughts will be with you..."

Enjoy your hols.


message 50: by Cecily (new)

Cecily Alfred wrote: "So what should I put on my sign?"
Ooh, hmm... I shall have to get back on that, but until then, I want to say how much I, we here, appreciate your show of support from across the pond."


There's nearly a month till he comes, and anything could happen in that time...

I'm glad to know my modest show of support is welcome.


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