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message 1: by Joshua (new)

Joshua Montalvo Do you not feel that the creature was morally obligated to act that way under the circumstances?


message 2: by Kelly (new)

Kelly Who knows, I think Frankenstein perceives him to be evil because he feels so wretched with his presence destroying his happiness. I think he was 'unloved'.


message 3: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Mullen It is a sad statement about Mary Shelly that the Frankenstein Monster's original sin, from which all of his devastated life arose, was that he was UGLY. In the world of Mary Shelly's novel, people were so shallow-minded that this condition that the monster itself had no control over or choice of was a "deadly sin" that doomed him.


message 4: by Göktuğ (new)

Göktuğ Demiralp I would have to agree with Molly. Even when he came to understand the world around him he still chose to do evil. Mary Shelley juxtaposes the two characters, the father and victor together and what we see continuously is this notion of "what about me?" Therefore their egocentric mind frame sets their discourse in the novel. And yes he was abused and unloved, but in saying that it doesn't make his actions right. I would agree with Molly's statement, Frankenstein's creation is both evil and unloved


message 5: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Mullen But it only did unto others as others had done unto it. Its dealings with the family were illuminative. First, it did work for them. It approached someone who would not notice its "deadly sin" and asked for help. It was only when the other tried to kill it that it responded in kind. No, it was NOT evil. It just had the wrong teachers. And, if it was unloved, it was unloved for the most vile and evil of reasons.


message 6: by Göktuğ (new)

Göktuğ Demiralp To some extent I would agree. The beauty of this book is that Marry Shelley inclines the reader to emphasize for the creature. In a sense the reader becomes like the parent that the creature never had. Being a parent is such a strong bond to such an extent that when our kids grow up and becomes a menace to society and the justice system convicts our children we become over protective of them. We start justifying their actions just like we do in the novel for the creature. If a man kills another man it doesn't make it right by any means. The action is evil and would be convicted by any society with penalty. Serial killers do not become serial killers because their biologically inclined rather like the creature they too have had some hardship in their life. What I am trying to get at is, it's what we do that define us, this what distinguishes heroes from villains.


message 7: by Lucas (new)

Lucas Unloved, it should make you realize the effect of all of our actions to people, how not giving respect and love to people can lead them to do things we think are bad. and it reminds me of H.W. Longfellow, "if we were to read the secret histories of our enemies, we would find sorrow and suffering enough to disarm all hostility"


message 8: by Göktuğ (new)

Göktuğ Demiralp The creature in itself is symbolic of Satan. His casted away and abandoned and later the creature looks for vengeance. This is understood from the intertexuality of the novel, there is a reference to Milton's Paradise Lost. If any ones read it I would like to get their feedback on the book. Paradise Lost is about how Satan was casted away from Gods kingdom and it put Satan in an empathic spotlight. Like the creature in Frankenstein your inclined to feel sorry for Satan in the novel. Is the Creature evil or unloved? I don't know, maybe we should think deeper beyond our emotions and think of the underlying philosophical messages in the novel.


message 9: by Zakiyyah (new)

Zakiyyah Jeff. It's a natural, people are afraid of what they don't know. I could see people in this century acting towards him in the same manner. Imagine the monster knocking on someone's door in the middle of the night haha.


message 10: by Hannah (new)

Hannah Graham The idea of Frankenstein was to demonstrate the effects of tyranny and repression on society. The system of government at the time created its own monsters. It also reflected the way Mary Shelley felt about the neglect she suffered from Percy Shelley.


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